Howard Kurtz scored a coup on his CNN show “Reliable Sources” two Sundays ago when White House communications director Anita Dunn came on to knuckle-rap Fox News, saying that the network
often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party….That’s fine, but let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.
Those remarks quickly ricocheted around the blogosphere, talk radio, and cable news.
Her claims would have seemed a perfect subject for one of Kurtz’s Washington Post columns. Were they accurate? Two days later, Kurtz did take up Dunn’s remarks, but not to assess their accuracy. Instead, he focused on the political angle:
Leaving aside the distinction between Fox reporters and the likes of O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck—Dunn admitted that Major Garrett is a fair journalist—does this sort of frontal attack make political sense? Could Obama score points with Fox’s audience by engaging, as he did by going on the “Factor” during the campaign? Or does the cable channel provide useful foil for a Democratic administration?
Plus, if you look at MSNBC’s lineup after 6 p.m., Fox isn’t the only network that goes heavy on opinionated hosts.
Kurtz went on to offer a grab-bag of comments on the issue from publications like The Nation and the Baltimore Sun. And that was it. This is increasingly what Kurtz does in his “Media Notes” columns, offering a roundup of media quotes spliced together with his own clever comments, with virtually no reporting or sustained analysis of his own.
In a column the previous week, in fact, Kurtz breezily dismissed the idea of analyzing the claims made by people like Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, or Rush Limbaugh:
My view is that they control no votes, no factions, no military units, but they do have powerful microphones. Whatever influence wielded by Beck and Hannity or Limbaugh (or by commentators on the other side) stems from their ideas and their talents as infotainers. If they peddle misinformation and exaggerations, that can be neutralized by others in the media marketplace. Nearly everyone dismissed Beck’s charge that the president is a racist, but the ACORN videos he and Hannity trumpeted on Fox proved to be a legitimate story.
Gee, Howard, I would have thought that the main job of a media reporter would be to expose the misinformation and exaggerations peddled by news organizations. Why cede the job to the “media marketplace” (whatever that is)? I would expect The Washington Post to be one place we could look to for a thoughtful, well-researched analysis of the performance of a network like Fox.
It’s true that Fox can break legitimate stories, as it did with ACORN. Yet, for every such story, it seems to push many that are not legitimate—that in fact seem lunatic. During last year’s presidential campaign last year, for instance, Sean Hannity ran an hour-long special, “Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism,” that offered a series of allegations and half-truths about Obama’s supposed ties to Louis Farrakhan, Muslim fundamentalists, black-power advocates, and Bill Ayers. In one especially egregious segment, a writer with a history of making anti-Semitic sentiments claimed that Obama, in deciding to work as a community organizer in Chicago after college, had probably been recruited for the job by Ayers, who was seeking to test his suitability for joining his radical political movement to bring about a “socialist revolution” in America. Since Obama has taken office, Hannity (having dispensed with the services of Alan Colmes, his long-time fig-leaf liberal sidekick) devotes virtually every minute of every show to bitter criticism of Obama and the Democrats. Glenn Beck has been even more unhinged, claiming that:
* Obama “has a deep-seated hatred for white people”;
* the White House’s support for “net neutrality” is an effort by Obama to control the Internet;
* the president’s back-to-school speech to students in September urging them to succeed and persist in their studies was an exercise in Mao-like indoctrination;
* Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama’s nominee to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs—widely regarded as a centrist—is an anti-gun, anti-hunting, pro-animal-rights extremist;
* Obama’s use of “czars” is part of a determined effort to trample the American system of government;
* “Socialism is being shoved down our throats”;
* “We are really truly stepping beyond socialism and we’re starting to look at fascism.”
Not just fascism, but Nazism. Beck’s reasoning is so ludicrous that you have to read it to believe it:
Let me just explain what happened in Nazi Germany. Remember it was National Socialism. We’re talking about nationalizing the banks. We’re also putting in socialized programs. National. Socialism. At first in Nazi Germany, everybody was so panicked, they were so freaked, remember, Don’t take any time to think about it, we just have to do, do, do. First all the big companies and big capitalists in Germany said, Oh goodness, there’s a savior — we’ll do that, yes! It didn’t take too long before — like, here in America, Goldman Sachs — they started to see the writing on the wall and went, Whoa, whoa, whoa, you guys are getting out of control here — what are you doing? They couldn’t get out of it fast enough. Unfortunately for those in Germany, you could never go back. I don’t know if this is the system we’re headed towards or not, where they’re not gonna let you out. But let me tell you something, you don’t want to play this game — this is becoming extraordinarily dangerous.
For an appreciation of Beck’s sheer nuttiness, though, I urge people to watch this clip of Beck interviewing David Horowitz, the former left-wing-conspiracy-theorist turned right-wing-conspiracy-theorist. On it, Horowitz, with Beck’s prodding, describes the existence of a vast shadow party organized by George Soros and made up of billionaires, street radicals, radical unions with a Leninist perspective, John Podesta and the Center for American Progress, pro-Cuba activitists, former communists, and a host of other subversives and insurrectionists, all “seeking to overthrow this system and to create a socialist future.”
Beck: “Do you think the President of the United States Barack Obama has that agenda—”
Horowitz: “Absolutely. I have no doubt about it.”
These examples could be multiplied many times over. And let’s not forget Fox’s tireless promotion of the virulently anti-Obama tea parties last April.
Now, as Kurtz notes, Fox does have some straight-shooting journalists, such as Major Garrett, Chris Wallace, and Carl Cameron, and some of its daytime shows provide a relatively uninflected take on the news. But even here the bias is palpable. On Monday morning, for instance, I watched as Fox brought on Karl Rove to comment on Rahm Emanuel’s criticism of the Bush administration’s handling of the war in Afghanistan. In the course of five minutes he made a half-dozen preposterous claims about the brilliance of Bush’s policy and the failures of Obama’s, all of which went unchallenged. In the afternoon, I watched anchor Neil Cavuto join anti-global-warming documentary filmmaker Phelim McAleer in mercilessly mocking Al Gore and the environmental movement in general. On Tuesday afternoon, Cavuto went on endlessly about the closed door behind which senators are deliberating on the health care bill, speculating gleefully on whether it was locked or could be nailed shut, showing pictures of various types of doors, and airing excerpts from the Twilight Zone. By Wednesday, he was referring to the matter as “Doorgate,” and the network as a whole was comparing Obama’s criticism of Fox and the Chamber of Commerce to Nixon’s enemies list.
Watching all this, it seems clear to me that Fox is engaged in a calculated and determined campaign to destroy the Obama presidency—a campaign that also happens to be good for its ratings.
It’s true that, where Fox has a strong rightward tilt, MSNBC has a strong leftward one. Keith Olbermann seems to traffic in his own brand of Howard Beale-like bombast. (His “worst person in the world” segment is particularly obnoxious.) But the network just doesn’t seem to feature the conspiratorial looniness or corrosive fear-mongering that pervades Fox.
Some will no doubt disagree with my assessment, but Howard Kurtz doesn’t even think the issue is worth examining—the “media marketplace” will sort it out. He’s not alone. Despite the obvious influence of cable TV (and talk radio) in shaping the national political debate, our top newspapers have given up any pretense of acting as a monitor or referee of what appears on these shows. The New York Times, for instance, spends far more time dissecting reality TV than it does the political influence of TV news.
Into this vacuum has stepped Jon Stewart. Young people have embraced his show precisely because he’s willing to take on cable news in a way our top media reporters are not. And not just Fox. Last week, “The Daily Show” offered a brilliant expose of the superficiality and hollowness of the journalism practiced on CNN, showing how its anchors allow partisan spokesmen to make all kinds of ridiculous claims without challenge. “We’ll have to leave it there” was the stock response of CNN interviewers to the ludicrous talking points of their guests.
You’ll almost never see Howard Kurtz scrutinize CNN in that way. Of course, he’s employed by the network.
On Sunday, Kurtz was brought on to the NPR show “On the Media” to discuss Anita Dunn’s comments. (Alas, “On the Media” offered no analysis of its own, taking instead the lazy approach of a bland chat with Kurtz.) Kurtz observed that
in that original Time Magazine article where Anita Dunn took her first shot at FOX News, she also took shots at The New York Times and The Washington Post. They are frustrated and, frankly, I think it’s because they are not used to what is the typical aggressive and sometimes almost confrontational coverage from the media.
This is what we do. We’re not supposed to get along with these people. They’re not our friends. We’re supposed to hold them accountable. So FOX stands in the White House pantheon as the most aggressive and unfair, they would say, news outlet, but they’re not all that happy with the rest of us, either.
So there it is: Fox is no different from the Times or Post. They’re all just doing their job.
In fact, in not holding demagogues accountable, none of them is doing its job. That might be why the Obama administration felt compelled to engage the issue in the first place.
Well, Mr. Massing, whatever its faults, Fox has not been caught rigging an explosion and blaming the pickup truck's design (that was NBC's "Dateline"), or using political activists to try to entrap ordinary grocery workers into dishonest practices (that would be ABC's fragrant 'Food Lion' expose), or using very sketchy documents on its most prominent 'gotcha!' news documentary program in an obviously partisan election-year activity (CBS, Bush, National Guard), or turning in a really nasty, hate-mongering performance against three white youths accused of rape by a black woman in a climate of campus hysteria - an accusation that looked fishy from the get-go, but that didn't phase the de facto assignment editor for the MSM. Does any disinterested reader take The Times' 'reporting' and 'analysis' on race and gender issues very seriously? And these issues cover a lot ground in American politics and culture, so why soft-pedal MSM's skewed reporting on these issues?
Fox features loonies, blowhards, and conspiracy theories; so does the MSM, only it gets called 'provocative' and 'edgy' when it comes from the Left. Because of the connection between liberal politics, culture, and media, the MSM is uncomforably close to the craziness of 9/11 truthers, for instance, who comprise a significant number of Democratic stalwarts, and have many high-profile acolytes in the entertainment industry, who are charitably not framed as kooks in morning-show interviews and such; they are treated respectfully in the cultural pages of MSM newspapers and in the 'profile' segments of MSM television.
I'm glad that journalists on the Left such as yourself have evolved to the point of being able to pre-emptively concede that, yes, there are individuals and groups and organizations that lend credence to Fox's contention that it does nothing in the way of mixing news and partisanship that was patented about the time of Edward R. Murrow. But somehow in liberal news organizations, the sins itemized in your article are at best treated as 'errors'; in conservative Fox and among right-wing pundits they are, of course, metaphors. Only liberals obsess about the 'sins' of Fox, Limbaugh, etc., without also being concerned about some of the typical MSM behavior above.
#1 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 12:51 PM
The mainstream media, whatever its faults, apologizes and punishes those responsible when caught in ethics violations. Fox keeps its loonies on the air.
#2 Posted by Ron Rosenthal, CJR on Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 01:26 PM
The difference between fact-checking Fox and fact-checking most other media is, actually, the amount of work involved -- and I would say it's orders of magnitude different. Media of reputation, when they screw up, get a serious working-over because it happens with relative infrequency. Imagine doing that with each of Fox's episodes of lying. Makes me tired just to think about it.
#3 Posted by Woody Woodruff, CJR on Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 01:46 PM
I am a reporter at a large daily newspaper, and I just have to say, CJR has become a total piece of garbage. I am embarrassed to be in the Fourth Estate with you partisan, obsessive liberal kooks.
#4 Posted by Jay, CJR on Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 11:03 PM
The fact that the hacktacular Howie Kurtz does little analysis is really beside the point. Kurtz is a stealth Republican married to a Republican lobbyist. He will never fact-check Fox, even though he works for CNN. Review his columns for the Post (hardly left-wing, look at Fred Hiatt) and you'll find a pattern of minimizing charges against right-wing outlets like Fox, Limbaugh, etc. and picking up as "worthy of examination" the fringiest murmurings from wingnuts.
#5 Posted by Steve Din, CJR on Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 11:27 PM
Mark Richard likes to repeat himself, (he's used the Bush National Guard farce three times that I can recall of the top of my head) so I'm going to do the same:
#6 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 01:16 AM
PS. Carl Cameron was the journalist with a wife employed by the Bush campaign while he was giving the president interviews while he was in charge of Fox's political coverage.
Chris Wallace may be involving himself in the Beckian Mao Dunn controversy.
Shep Smith is the straightest shooter fox has got.
#7 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 01:24 AM
Fox News did rig a story, check out Fox News and BST outtake from The Corporation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1pKlnhvg0
#8 Posted by thimbles, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 01:29 AM
I'm with Jay. I was a reporter and editor for more than 25 years. Years ago, I always used to look forward to reading CJR, as I felt it was a fair arbiter and good critic. Now it is clearly part of the left-wing political machine in this country, never striving for any kind of balance, but always looking for ways to score points for "its" team.
If I were still an editor and I got a job application from someone who worked at CJR, I would toss it in the garbage.
#9 Posted by Frank, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 09:14 AM
I am certainly no defender of Howie Kurtz, but in addition to his column, he has hosted a widely-read Washington Post chat column where he has vented at some considerable length his views on Fox. In fact, I believe you are just using Kurtz's alleged failures as a journalism columnist as a foil to unleash your tirade against Fox. As you point out, Kurtz started all this by asking Dunn about Fox, which unleashed the initial tirade. To criticize Kurtz now about his handling of the Fox issue is plain nutty.
#10 Posted by edward, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 09:33 AM
I wish Mr. Massing -- or someone -- would provide an analysis of how and why TV cable news, with its relatively tiny audiences (at least compared to the network news and print media) have come to control the country's news agenda.
#11 Posted by Wiliam Boot, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 10:33 AM
Here's a hint: if you use phrases like "MSM," you're an idiot.
#12 Posted by Del Coro, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 12:31 PM
Thimbles, thanks for following my posts so closely. I sometimes have to repeat the examples of MSM behavior that is as bad or worse than Fox's behavior because . . . so many people seem to want to forget them.
ABC was punished by a jury in the 'Food Lion' case, not by internal quality control. NBC did apologize for the exploding pickup rigging, but only after the manufacturer, smelling something fishy, analyzed the tape and took their debunking public. Same story with CBS and the fake Bush document; only after some skeptics started questioning the evidence did CBS conduct an investigation, though producer Mary Mapes was known to be an ardent political partisan for the Left. No internal skepticism was found in CBS' subsequent investigation, which is revealing. As for The NY Times, the newspaper has never had the courage to apologize to the victims of the Duke rape scam, though one staffer anonymously described the paper's performance as 'sick-making'.
As with all these discussions, the topic is really politics rather than journalism. My point is not that Fox's journalism is above criticism. My point is that it is criticized for the same things routinely accepted when the MSM skews liberal-left. Conservative media blogs such as Newsbusters and the Media Research outfit document these things daily. If anyone is curious enough to match the criticism by the pro-right critics and balance it with criticism by the pro-left outfits like Media Matters, and leftist writers such as Eric Boehlert, Eric Alterman, and CJR's own Massing and Kaiser, I believe that the former make a more comprehensive case that most journalists are products and reflectors of the outlook of the urban middle-classes - and that this outlook is strongly left-leaning, especially on the social issues which define the political/class divide in this country.
The antipathy that exists between the big urban news organizations and the Republican Party's rank-and-file has been part of American politics since Eisenhower was cheered for critizing the press at the 1964 GOP convention. Only rigid liberal partisans remain in denial.
#13 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 12:40 PM
I've always loved reading Howard Kurtz's chats on the Washington Post. They're an exercise in surrealism.
Someone from Camp 1 will spell out some case about how Kurtz is a liberal stooge and must spend more time investigating the liberal media, that *It's His Job* to spend all his time exposing examples of liberal bias. Then someone from Camp 2 will spell out the case that he's a secret conservative and *It's His Job* to spend his every waking minute LiveBlogging FoxNews as a fact checker. Kurtz patiently explains himself to these wingnut lunatics every week. Then a third camp comes along and says "Why are you doing all this media navel-gazing? don't you know there's a WAR going on?" All three camps are either a) completely oblivious to the other sides or b) refuse to acknowledge that any point of view other than their own could possibly have any merit whatsoever.
It's impossible to please opposing camps of complete idiots. And it's sad to see the CJR join Camp 2. For me, it's not that CJR has signed up for partisan warfare (although it appears it has), but that it's devolved to fairly sophomoric analysis.
#14 Posted by Josh, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 01:51 PM
Mr. Massing: You are so smart! No wonder you publish in NYRB. Here, have another glass of Kool Aid.
#15 Posted by gaapmeister, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 02:13 PM
I just read up on your food lion case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Lion#Primetime_Live
and I have two questions.
1) How is sensationalizing a sanitation story an eample of liberal left media bias? Same with the Dateline GM pickup story, I understand the collapse in quality due to the desire for a ratings pop, but where's the political motivation? What liberal goals do you claim GE and ABC tried to achieve?
2) In that Food Lion story, boy does it sound like entrapment. They guys walk in posing as people they're not, they secretly tape workers in the back without permission, and they encourage employees to do wrongdoing without the knowledge they are on tape.
What those media people did was very wrong, we must agree, since you brought it up.
So tell me how it was any different than those James O'Keefe videos that Fox heavily promoted? Do you have a problem with their tactics - in which case you should be criticizing Fox for promoting this kind of rancid journalism - or don't you - in which case you should stop bringing up ABC's Food Lion kerfuffle as an example of bad journalism, because in your opinion it isn't.
Pick one and get back to me.
PPS. Again, on the Rather document story, yes they got false documents that filled in some minor gaps on an authentic story. They rushed to verify the documents and they got caught. They fired Dan Rather and conducted an independent investigation headed by, long time republican, Dick Thornburgh. They apologized and I disapprove of the shoddy standards demonstrated when they put the story on the air and stood by it for nearly a month,
Now can we all hear a disapproval of Fox News, who promoted for about a year the ravings of Jerome Corsi and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth without any vetting nor independent investigations nor apologies when they got the story (from paid hacks who didn't serve with Kerry) so completely wrong that society has now elevated words "Swift Boat" to the status of "rat f*cker"? Now that we all agree that American Media sucks and is the polar opposite of informative, can we at least mention the latest activities of worst of the bunch without hearing about ten year old stories of MS Media malpractice?
The excuse "They did it too" does not absolve Fox doing it worse, more often, without shame.
#16 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 02:30 PM
By the by, I notice there's two reporters from the "Liberal Media" who are kvetching about Massing's *leftistism.
Hey reporter guys, if you want your sympathetic tripe from cjr, it's here:
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/fox_holes.php
Quit whining, Jay and Frank. If you can't say something more substantial than "I don't like you. You're a leftist, duuuh." then don't say anything at all.
If you are representative of real reporters and editors, it's no wonder people are forecasting the death of the news industry. You have nothing informative to add to the conversation.
At least Mike Richard puts some effort into it.
*That's what the Washington post labels accurate observations, according to Fred Hiatt.
#17 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 02:49 PM
Here is the bottom line question I have regarding Fox being a real news organization or not: if the WH does not think it is, why doesn't it pull the press credentials for the Fox White House reporter? Why do the Democrats in Congress not pull their credentials?
It also seems people here argue about the pundits (Hannity, Beck, etc) but not the reporting on the flagship 6 p.m. broadcast. I watch most of the network and cable news channels, Special Report has some very solid reporting, and the beat reporters on Fox are no better or worse than on CNN, MSNBC, etc. I would argue Major Garrett is one of the best on any channel.
Final thought: be careful about throwing stones about who on Fox is married to who - there is gross incest among both political parties with reporters from all the networks.
#18 Posted by Serving Soldier, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 03:54 PM
Thimbles, I appreciate your response (I'm not being sarcastic, either) because it actually went to the question of journalistic standards and whether Fox is in guilt of offense beyond those already used by the new organizations friendlier to Fox's critics. We'll have to disagree about whether Fox is just 'worse' than other news outlets clearly letting their own institutional political culture dictate the vocabulary and framing of their approaches to stories. I don't expect political partisans to be very sensitive to the long list of complaints against the MSM by conservative consumers; I'll just note that Daniel Okrent, the NY Times ombudsman and a standard-issue political liberal, has stated bluntly that liberals dominate political journalism and that it often shows, and that Thomas Edsall, also a candid journalist on the Left, has lately (in CJR itself) asked journalists to embrace their left-leaning slant, instead of denying it.
It's fair enough to mention the reporters (such as Carl Cameron) who have personal ties to the GOP, but do you really want to get into this comparison? Two of the three correspondents covering the White House for the networks are former employees of Democratic politicians - Chuck Todd for Sen. Harkin, Chip Reid for VP Biden. On the Sunday morning shows, George Stephanopoulos, the Clintons' former press secretary, anchors ABC's effort; Bob Shieffer over at CBS has described himself as a Democrat; David Gregory at NBC has no known partisan affiliation, but his predecessor Tim Russert got into politics working for Sen. Moynihan and Gov. Cuomo. Gov. Cuomo's son Chris, brother of Andrew, is under consideration for the anchor spot at Good Morning America. Sorry, but the Republicans do not begin, numerically, to match the penetration of major news departments that exists for the Democrats.
This doesn't mean that the above-named cannot be tough on Democrats; sometimes they have been. But wouldn't you be frustrated at the revolving door of journalists and partisan office-holders of the shoe were on the other foot and ex-GOP officeholders were in such positions of influence? Clinton's last press secretary, Lockhart - look up his bio. He toggled between between being a MSM staffer and a Democratic staffer (if they were in power) for decades.
You believe that this doesn't affect coverage, but I believe it does - as witness the nasty coverage of the 'Town Hall' demonstrators vs. the coverage of, say, the recent left-wing demonstations against the G-20 in Pittsburgh. Left-wing demos are normal, right-wing demos are scary. This is a liberal mind-set.
The examples you cite of Foxian perfidy are, again, comparable to MSM performances. Per the Swift Boat comparison (a little more complicated than you concede - some of the Swift Boaters really had 'been there', Kerry was clearly wrong about his Cambodian story, etc. - just enough truth to give the false charges legs, you know?), the networks (especially Eric Engberg of CBS) spent a lot of time giving credibility to the charge that the Willie Horton ad was 'racist' - a way of adopting the Dukakis campaign's line that the ad was, well, technically, 'true', but it was bad manners to bring up Dukakis' behavior. Sometimes these political ads are rough and ill-mannered because the MSM protects liberal politicians from presenting a bad image. They did it last year (Cindy McCain's prescription drug use got more press than Barack Obama's past cocaine use or present cigarette addiction). To me, not printing true but unflattering information about a candidate is on a par with printing misleading information as fact.
Fox is, again, criticized for being the only major news outlet devoting resources to information that is embarrassing to liberal activists, politicians, and groups. This news is hard to come by in the MSM, and this is a reason it is accused of bias. The networks, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, the big urban newspapers
#19 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 04:26 PM
A few salient points:
1. No equivalence exists between Fox & MSNBC. Fox spreads lies and is trying to destroy the presidency, as Massing points out. The two shows on MSNBC, especially Rachel Maddow, devote themselves to correcting right-wing lies. Absolutely necessary and long overdue.
2. Chris Wallace is no responsible journalist. He is a right-wing hack. If you watch his Sunday morning show, you'll see it relentless Republican propaganda -- all the more sinster for being disguised as "responsible," particularly if it fools someone like Massing.
3. The fact that Howard Kurtz is a tool of the status quo is quite well known, and has long been established by media critics like Eric Alterman and "Daily Howler." The Washington Post itself is right wing, as should be clear.
#20 Posted by rembrandt, CJR on Fri 23 Oct 2009 at 04:57 PM
The problem with people like Daniel Okrent is that they tend to confuse being leftist with being right (for example, Okrent's attacks on Krugman). One of the things that's funny in journalist culture is that it's the journalists themselves that are complaining about their profession being so liberal and leftist.
It's kind of like the klu klux klan complaining about their membership being too race friendly or the modern conservative complaining about republicans being too liberal, it is an illusion created by the individual's radicalism that makes the group seem compromised.
The facts are that journalists' perspectives are likely
a) socially libertarian, because they come from the universities and cities which promote an open minded approach to how other people live - so long as they don't injure anyone else or attempt to limit their rights.
b) economically conservative because they come from a class which is richer and more mobile than the general public. They share the same gossip, they hold the same biases, they love the same tax cuts in spite of the deficit they create, they hate government spending because of the deficit they create, they all support globalization, they all drink from the same founts of "wisdom".
Therefore none of them sensed there was an economic crisis coming in 2004-05 when people like Krugman and myself were talking about it and being laughed at as economic doomsayers and vain little partisans by people like Okrent.
c) They value style over substance because many of them have no substance.
See the movie Broadcast News for what I'm talking about or google any Maria Bartiromo interview or read practically any David Broder column.
And the fact of the matter is the reporter's bias doesn't matter because it's the corporate editorial bias which supersedes all. You can be a reporter who desires to post the most pro-Hugo Chavez Che screed in the history of journalism, but the editors who are concerned with increasing ratings, lowering costs, pleasing and increasing advertisers, and reflecting the world view of their owners/executive have veto power.
Don't believe me? Ask Ashely Banfield:
(Links taken out because of spam filter)
But yeah, there's a difference between the news networks who are so nepotistic that they'll hire Jenna Bush, because she comes from their political celebrity class, and putting a guy with personal connections to a candidate's campaign in charge of the campaign coverage and giving the candidate interviews.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huf-4XVUwkY
That is not done by a respectable news organization, if you can call any of the american media respectable in this day and age. Not without apology nor shame. But that's what I expect from a news network brought to you by the same folks who brought you Willie Horton:
(Links taken out because of spam filter)
No apologies, no shame. Ever.
#21 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Sat 24 Oct 2009 at 02:25 AM
MediaMatters.org edited this sampling of Fox News day-parts. Is the White House right? You decide: http://bit.ly/jLA96
#22 Posted by Ed Madison, CJR on Sun 25 Oct 2009 at 12:04 PM
Thimbles, in a rush but quick respons to your Food Lion question. Food Lion was targeted specficially because a unionizing drive was going on there - not because its pracices were unusually bad. ABC hired some Ralph Nader munchkins to be its agents provocateurs. Most of the slanted framing and vocabulary originates at the producer/writer level, with the on-camera folks being the marionettes. Sorry, but I see a story idea being pitched by liberal groups to a liberal producer, who hires connected liberal activists to work on the story with him/her.
#23 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Mon 26 Oct 2009 at 01:52 PM
And what's the difference between that and what James O'Keefe did to ACORN?
If you approve of the tactic, then you should have no complaint about who uses it. If you disapprove of the tactic, then you should disapprove of it when it is used by conservative activists and fox news.
You got to have some consistency if you expect to attract rational people to your cause. More and more, people are using the acronyms IOKIYAR and IACIYAD to describe conservative angst because the only consistent principle they see behind it is "It's okay if you're a republican" and "it's a crime if your a democrat". World views on issues seem to flip in the blink of an election, in the blink of a party affiliation.
That's wrong. If you stand against something, then stand against it no matter who's side the source of the problem is on. Myself, I was against the pro-torture, pro-unaccountable prison, pro-uncharged prisoners, pro-military tribunal crap under Bush, and I remain so in spite of the shift in responsibility towards Obama. I was against destabilizing deregulation and government/wall street collusion under Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and now Obama. When Bush did positive things in Africa in medical spending and debt forgiveness, I praised it, though the other things he did made it impossible to like or support the guy.
Rational people care about ideals, issues, and actions in spite of the party in charge.
People who are sucked into the political spectacle and want their team to win, look the other way when their team breaks the rules and complain about the ref if the other team tries to get away with the same act.
They don't care about the sport, they care about the wining.
But politics is not a goddamned sport. This isn't about points, this is about the philosophies that shape our world. This is meaningful.
And when conservatives run around throwing out complaints like they're taking shots at a basketball game, hoping something goes in; when they treat politics as meaningless except as a means of winning the game, it's disgusting. People die for and because of these contests. The people who engage in them should do so with humility and consistency.
Not like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRngM7FbVmM
"Don’t let politics define anything. Politics is silly. Its inane and practitioners of politics are people to take what amusement you can from them but don’t take them seriously."
Ron Paul shows a humble and consistent character, but it seems to be a rare thing in today's conservative movement.
And a reason why that is may be is the type of coverage people consume on fox news and conservative media.
#24 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Mon 26 Oct 2009 at 03:08 PM
LOL!
The self-proclaimed "watchdog" of "professional journalism" that couldn't manage to squeeze the words "abetting a child prostitution ring" into any of the three half-ass apologies it belatedly ran for ACORN days after the sting resulted in the only bipartisan vote in Congress since the inauguration, now jumps on Kurtz for refusing to justify Obama's Fox News hissy-fit.
Precious...
Fiddle on, Nero!
#25 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Mon 26 Oct 2009 at 11:20 PM
Kurtz reports in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd-6Bfz9NGY
Moral of the story? Be careful what ye wish for.
#26 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Mon 26 Oct 2009 at 11:42 PM
More on my point about Okrent, I found an old Greenwald post which is worth a read. It's about how "the liberal" washington post fired Dan Froomkin for the sin of being liberal and how it relates to the greater media.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/19/washpost/index.html
#27 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 27 Oct 2009 at 01:41 AM
Thimble, thanks again for a substantive response. I don't agree with the mantra that journalists are economically 'conservative' as such. That presumes that economic leftists are not self-interested. On the contrary, a lot of leftist politics is about disadvantaging rivals for power (i.e., people in old-school businesses who make things you can drive, wear, live in, etc.) and correspondingly advantaging themselves. I mean, do you ever watch '60 Minutes'? Michael Moore wants all pharmaceutical scientists to be civil servants, while people who make movies are free to get rich doing so. He may think he is being 'progressive' - in fact, he is enunciating the self-interest of the chattering classes. Fewer resources for my ideological enemies, more for me and my friends. The humanities and social sciences grads vs. the engineering and business grads. "Funding" vs. "profits".
So there is vilification of, say, the oil industries when prices jump, but zero investigation of, say, the inflation over 30 years of the cost of higher education - which makes the inflation in the cost of gasoline at the pump look like chump change. High-technology business gets good coverage, but that's cultural - these guys are seen as young and hip. The dot.com crash of 2000 cost quite a few people quite a bit of money, but no air of corruption attached to that type of business, and the reason is cultural, not ideological. Liberal politics and journalism is simply the expression of self-interest of the urban bourgeoisie.
The difference between Food Lion and ACORN is that '60 Minutes' or 'Dateline' should have been doing the latter story, too. The ACORN videos were brought forward by Breitbart, not by the MSM, which, as usual, had its head in the sand when it comes to damaging stories about left-leaning groups. Who knew that ACORN was tax-subsidized? I didn't. Without meaning to, you are sort of validating my main point about the shortcomings of the MSM, and the lack of real difference between its practices and those of Fox. Only Fox devotes resources to embarrassing liberal-left politicians, activists, and groups. That's why, in spite of its clear pro-conservative bias, it is worth checking out. That's also why ostensibly detached, but really deeply political and ideological writers like Massing have trouble seeing Fox with the same eyes that more skeptical consumers view the MSM. It just doesn't look like bias if it validates 'my side'.
#28 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Wed 28 Oct 2009 at 01:05 PM
There really isn't any difference between Food Lion and Acorn, except in Mark Richard's rosy view of Fox.
#29 Posted by David in NY, CJR on Fri 30 Oct 2009 at 10:47 AM
David, As a literate person can determine from my posts, I don't have a rosy view of Fox. I just don't share the rosy view of the rest of the big news organizations - that they are free of the tendencies Fox shows. Inasmuch as you can't tell the difference between Food Lion (a grocery chain) and ACORN (a tax-subsidized political activist group with good connections to the Democratic Party), I'm not hopeful about your reading comprehension skills, but this is for the record.
#30 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Wed 4 Nov 2009 at 12:40 PM
It was public knowledge that Acorn received some tax funding. The HUD, especially under Bush, was pushing community group initiatives which Acorn qualified under. They got a bunch of money under the "ownership society" policy push at the same time the Bush Administration justice department was gining up "voter registration fraud" charges against Acorn as part of its voter suppression, perception of election corruption push. A story that was missed by the 'liberal' MSM and was put together by talking points memo and got very
little press (with the exception of Krugman
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/opinion/09krugman.html
"The bigger scandal, however, almost surely involves prosecutors still in office. The Gonzales Eight were fired because they wouldn’t go along with the Bush administration’s politicization of justice. But statistical evidence suggests that many other prosecutors decided to protect their jobs or further their careers by doing what the administration wanted them to do: harass Democrats while turning a blind eye to Republican malfeasance.
Donald Shields and John Cragan, two professors of communication, have compiled a database of investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans, and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny."
)
since, for the press, it's Drudge that rules their world.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2008/how-matt-drudge-rules-the-poli.html
Things like this have frequently gotten misreported or unreported and, when they are reported, the reporters become marginalized as partisans and sent to journalistic Siberia.
The traditional media is top down controlled and product oriented. In the past, maybe there was an idealistic attachment to the quaint concept of one's duty to inform the public. Today's media is run by corporations who have audiences to sell to their customers, the advertisers. Their goals are to increase audience size, making the product more attractive, and to placate their customers, keeping their advertisers happy. Those corporate goals filter to the editors, which filter to the journalists, which filter into the product.
Which is why we talk about overdosing playmate ex strippers instead of the predatory loans that Wall Street was pushing. Which is why we talk about what Eliot Spitzer was doing instead of what he was saying at the time:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021302783.html
and the strange conduct of the Bush Justice Department towards him:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/mann-date-by-digby-to-those-of-you-who.html
(It's interesting that the case was brought to the justice department's attention by republican hatchet man, sex freak, Roger Stone and the banks who's industry Spitzer was investigating)
All American media (with few exceptions, mostly in print) is crap these days talking about the trivial instead of the actual; it's a systemic problem.
The problem is Fox News talks about the trivial, like everybody else, and then masquerades ginned up scandals as actual problems. They do this because their editors are republican hitmen. Roger Ailes is notorious and the antithesis of news a
#31 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 4 Nov 2009 at 11:49 PM
It was public knowledge that Acorn received some tax funding. The HUD, especially under Bush, was pushing community group initiatives which Acorn qualified under. They got a bunch of money under the "ownership society" policy push at the same time the Bush Administration justice department was gining up "voter registration fraud" charges against Acorn as part of its voter suppression, perception of election corruption push. A story that was missed by the 'liberal' MSM and was put together by talking points memo and got very
little press (with the exception of Krugman
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"The bigger scandal, however, almost surely involves prosecutors still in office. The Gonzales Eight were fired because they wouldn’t go along with the Bush administration’s politicization of justice. But statistical evidence suggests that many other prosecutors decided to protect their jobs or further their careers by doing what the administration wanted them to do: harass Democrats while turning a blind eye to Republican malfeasance.
Donald Shields and John Cragan, two professors of communication, have compiled a database of investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans, and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny."
)
since, for the press, it's Drudge that rules their world.
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First and foremost, is the depth -- and the quality -- of Drudge's readership. Drudge's number of unique visitors is regularly touted but what is more important, in terms of his ability to drives news cycles, is that every reporter and editor who covers politics is checking the site multiple times a day.
Phil Singer, former deputy communications director for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign and now a Democratic consultant, called Drudge's "elite readership" a key to his influence. Singer added that a walk through any press filing center at a debate reveals every other laptop, at least, has Drudge's website up on its screen.
Things like this have frequently gotten misreported or unreported and, when they are reported, the reporters become marginalized as partisans and sent to journalistic Siberia.
The traditional media is top down controlled and product oriented. In the past, maybe there was an idealistic attachment to the quaint concept of one's duty to inform the public. Today's media is run by corporations who have audiences to sell to their customers, the advertisers. Their goals are to increase audience size, making the product more attractive, and to placate their customers, keeping their advertisers happy. Those corporate goals filter to the editors, which filter to the journalists, which filter into the product.
Which is why we talk about overdosing playmate ex strippers instead of the predatory loans that Wall Street was pushing. Which is why we talk about what Eliot Spitzer was doing instead of what he was saying at the time:
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Washington Post: Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime
and the strange conduct of the Bush Justice Department towards him:
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To those of you who are in high dudgeon over Spitzer possibly violating the Mann Act --- please. The Mann Act is bs in a situation where the parties were consensual. Here's Wikipedia's history of the Mann Act. It's often been used for political purposes.
(It's interesting that the case was brought to the justice department's attention by republican
#32 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 4 Nov 2009 at 11:59 PM
Sorry the formatting got mucked up there. I tried to put pertinent text from the links the system doesn't allow (I think if you put more than a couple of links per post, you get quarantined) in italics, but it seems some of them didn't work.
Anyways, Dean Baker captures some of my message more succinctly than I:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press_archive?month=11&year=2009&base_name=mcclatchy_does_its_homework_on
McClatchy Does Its HomeWork on Goldman Sachs
They have some good investigative work here, here, and here. If Fox went over Goldman with the same energy it pursued Acorn, no one in Congress would go within a mile of its lobbyists.
#33 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 5 Nov 2009 at 12:13 AM
Sorry the formatting got mucked up there. I tried to put pertinent text from the links the system doesn't allow (I think if you put more than a couple of links per post, you get quarantined) in italics, but it seems some of them didn't work.
Anyways, Dean Baker captures some of my message more succinctly than I:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press_archive?month=11&year=2009&base_name=mcclatchy_does_its_homework_on
McClatchy Does Its HomeWork on Goldman Sachs
They have some good investigative work Link Removed here, L.R. here, and L.R. here. If Fox went over Goldman with the same energy it pursued Acorn, no one in Congress would go within a mile of its lobbyists.
#34 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 5 Nov 2009 at 12:16 AM
too bad this otherwise decent article has been undermined by the false equivalence with MSNBC aspect. That's traditional journalism, to which I understand you are opposed. Meanwhile, ACORN was not a legitimate but invented story, and "Worst Person in the World" is the highlight of Olbermann's excellent broadcast.
#35 Posted by Daphne Chyprious, CJR on Fri 13 Nov 2009 at 02:35 AM
I stand corrected. After being caught red handed
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-10-2009/sean-hannity-uses-glenn-beck-s-protest-footage
Hannity apologized:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/hannity-apologizes-jon-stewart-inadvertent
#36 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 13 Nov 2009 at 04:03 AM
Eric Alterman asks a few questions about Kurtz in this post, and quotes this story.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/11/ta111209.html
Never liked Kurtz. Always seemed kind of smarmy.
#37 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Sun 22 Nov 2009 at 09:46 AM
Following my own investigation, billions of persons all over the world get the home loans at well known banks. Therefore, there is a good chance to receive a secured loan in every country.
#38 Posted by SusanneDickerson, CJR on Sat 16 Oct 2010 at 12:44 PM