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"I wanted to probe her thoughts on national health care a bit more and asked why that was different in her mind than Social Security, a social insurance program. Isn’t it like Social Security? I asked. “But I paid into it; it’s mine,” she told me as she moved down the aisle."
Yeah, sure you paid for it. Just like you paid for Medicare; which is about to explode here in a few years when all you boomers retire.
And then you'll be leetching off young people like me who'll be forced to sustain a broken system that your generation failed to fix.
I don't know how we fell so far... we had the Greatest Generation help save the world from fascism, and then somehow we ended up with this spiteful, greed-driven Reagan generation that drained the treasury, clogged the health care system, rode Social Security into the dirt and offered no apologies.
And now they whine about change because they don't care about whether the system is sustainable; they know they're gonna die in a few years, so as long as "I got mine Jack," screw everyone else.
Barbara's generation let this country down.
#1 Posted by Hardrada, CJR on Tue 8 Sep 2009 at 11:58 AM
My goodness. Honesdale certainly has their share of teh stupid! It appears their education system and their local press has failed the community in a big way. They must have only one channel of news, Fox! You really have to feel for that young couple, though, struggling and trying to do the right thing. The others are just straight out ignorant and misinformed. Nothing but Hannity parrots.
#2 Posted by Tom, CJR on Wed 9 Sep 2009 at 12:15 AM
I have not read all of your columns. Hence, my comments may have missed your point.
The current debate isn't about "health Care."
I know of no person who thinks a person who is ill should not get health care,whether they can pay for it or not. If anyone does think a person should be denied health care, they should be tested.
The debate on "health care" is actually a debate about the ADMINISTRATION OF HEALTH CARE. Who runs it, the government, the insurance companies, the HMO'S, the doctors, or the administrators? Who pays for it? What shall be paid for? How will it be paid for? That's the debate.
The controvsey over "death panels" is actually an admission of an obvious problem. Nobody wants to admit they are going to die.
For perspective, go to your library and check out Prof. Monte Poen's Harry S. Truman Versus the Health Care Lobby (1965). Once you read it, you will get a sense of deja vu. JDR
#3 Posted by David Reno, CJR on Wed 9 Sep 2009 at 02:41 PM
I have not read all of your columns. Hence, my comments may have missed your point.
The current debate isn't about "health Care."
I know of no person who thinks a person who is ill should not get health care,whether they can pay for it or not. If anyone does think a person should be denied health care, they should be tested.
The debate on "health care" is actually a debate about the ADMINISTRATION OF HEALTH CARE. Who runs it, the government, the insurance companies, the HMO'S, the doctors, or the administrators? Who pays for it? What shall be paid for? How will it be paid for? That's the debate.
The controvsey over "death panels" is actually an admission of an obvious problem. Nobody wants to admit they are going to die.
For perspective, go to your library and check out Prof. Monte Poen's Harry S. Truman Versus the Health Care Lobby (1965). Once you read it, you will get a sense of deja vu. JDR
#4 Posted by David Reno, CJR on Wed 9 Sep 2009 at 02:42 PM
"Robert, seventyfour" agrees with [Karl] Marx about providing the "greatest good for the greatest number" -- a great description of the utopian goals of John Stuart Mill and Jeremy Bentham, Utilitarians not Communists, and certainly not the author of Das Kapital.
as the writer demonstrates, what most people "know" about socialism, the economy and politics just ain't so -- but they'll still insist on the right to wear their ignorance like armor. Mr. Obama missed a great teachable moment last night, when he might've halted his speech to introduce that heckling SC Congressman as a prime example of the low-brow tactics being brought into public discourse these days. - tdp
#5 Posted by Ty dePass, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 07:10 PM