Last week, before the release of their new report, The Reconstruction of American Journalism, Leonard Downie and Michael Schudson joined CJR for a half hour conversation. They discussed the state of the nation’s journalism, the panoply of reporting start-ups across the country, and their recommendations for how these new efforts might be nurtured and strengthened.

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Clint Hendler is the managing editor of Mother Jones, and a former deputy editor of CJR.