Ah Medicaid! What can we say about it? Until the last couple of weeks, the press has said almost nothing. It’s not sexy; not fun to write about. It affects poor people who don’t bring in traffic. And it can get us tangled in the weeds pretty fast.
But lately we’re on the case. Perhaps one reason is Bill Clinton’s address at the Democratic National Convention, when he pointed out that while Medicaid is best known as a program for the poor, the majority of its spending goes to the elderly and people who are disabled. The Kaiser Family Foundation says these two groups account for 25 percent of the program enrollees, yet for two-thirds of Medicaid spending. Maybe that reminded the press that it should take a look. Or perhaps it was the realization that the Romney-Ryan ticket could change the program as we know it.
Whatever the reason, we’re glad that some news outlets have begun to regard Medicaid as newsworthy. The California Healthline, a service sponsored by the California HealthCare Foundation, almost chastised the press for spending too much time on Medicare instead of Medicaid, arguing that the “Candidates’ Real Difference Are on Medicaid.” That goes a bit too far, in my opinion; Medicare is so important, and there are real differences between Obama’s approach and Romney-Ryan’s ideas for it. But it is true that their differences on Medicaid, which covers some 60 million Americans, are significant.
As The New York Times reported, in a piece by Abby Goodnough:
The outcome of the election will probably have a more immediate and profound effect on Medicaid, the joint state-federal program that provides health care to poor and disabled people. Few other issues present a starker difference between the Republican and Democratic tickets.
To review: Medicaid covers healthcare for those with low incomes who qualify by passing an income and asset test. People don’t get benefits if their incomes are too high and assets too great. Medicaid also pays for—and this is a big deal that is not well understood—more than half of all nursing home stays. Middle class people often qualify for Medicaid nursing home coverage by “spending down” their assets and income on care, making themselves poor enough to qualify.
While states and the feds share in financing Medicaid, the GOP plan is to upend this arrangement by giving each state a block grant—a fixed sum of money—that they can use to cover healthcare for the poor, nursing home stays for the middle class, or for other needs. Sketchy details make it hard to predict exactly what the states would do, but it’s possible they could restrict eligibility so that fewer people qualify. The devil will be in the details, and the press will need to find where they lurk.
And then there is this: Block grants usually reduce the amount of funds going to a particular program. Robin Rudowitz, associate director of the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured, told me “programs with capped federal funding do not keep pace with the need for them, and they don’t provide guarantees for benefits the way entitlement programs do.” She added “You can see it with the TANF (Temporary Assistance for Families) block grant, which hasn’t kept pace with demand.”
Medicaid, in its current form, is an entitlement. During the recession, as enrollment has grown, federal funding has been there for those who needed it. However, with a block grant, funding may not be available to everyone who needs healthcare. The tradeoff: The government saves money, but people don’t get treatment.
After the Supreme Court ruled in June that states did not have to participate in an expansion of Medicaid called for by the Affordable Care Act, Medicaid got a bit of a news bump. The story narrative focused on why the states would turn down federal dollars to cover more people, and news outlets did a lot of prognostication about which ones would balk at covering more of their residents. While it’s important to signal which states may refuse to expand Medicaid, some of those pieces did not go far enough and zoom in on what would happen to those left out.
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Trudy wrote: Medicaid, in its current form, is an entitlement. During the recession, as enrollment has grown, federal funding has been there for those who needed it.
padikiller responds: Sure it has "been there", alright... But only because the Gubmint ran up the credit cards. To the tune of FIVE ADDITIONAL TRILLION DOLLARS in less than four years!
In Lieberman Liberal La La Land... That counts as "funding".
See... PAYING for benefits never costs anybody anything in Lieberman Liberal La La Land. You won't see any of the trademarked "Trudy's People" stories on working slobs who pay taxes so that mooches can procreate on the Gubmint's Medicaid dime... You won't see the cost that FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS in debt ends up placing on the shoulders of every American.
Nope. The only cost to society in Lieberman Liberal La La Land comes when benefits are cut. That's all we talk about. That's when we get the "man on the street" horror stories about retirees having a hard time making the satellite TV payments in their beach houses and other such tripe.
Remember that ridiculous, stupid, idiotic "CLASS Act" boondoggle? You know, the one that promised to shake free long-term care payments from the Gubmint Money Fairy? Provide services AND cut the deficit? A floor finish AND a dessert topping?
I love the spin there... Obama (the man who made it law) mysteriously "found it to be unworkable"?
It was probably a whole lot easier for Obama to "find" this "unworkability" given that the CBO plainly stated the stupid boondoggle would never work from the damned getgo.
#1 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Mon 24 Sep 2012 at 03:02 PM
A teacher would be fired if her lectures were as unpredictable as the events the news media must investigate. She would also lose her license if her lectures were repeatedly interrupted by advertisements featuring sexaully attractive models and actresses. So no one should be shocked when Trudy Lieberman writes "Medicaid also pays for --- and this is a big deal that is not well understood --- more than half of all nursing home stays." But no one in the news media industry is interested in communicating like a teacher by publishing an annual one week review of events and conditions. Which could be repackage as a paperbackbook so people could buy a photogrpahic memory. But reporters must think that it is the responsibility of votes to take notes when they read a newspaper or listen to a news broadcast. Reporters must think think their job is to report the news, not to educate the public.
#2 Posted by Stanley Krauter, CJR on Mon 24 Sep 2012 at 03:59 PM
What Padikiller said.
#3 Posted by Dan A., CJR on Mon 24 Sep 2012 at 05:25 PM
"To the tune of FIVE ADDITIONAL TRILLION DOLLARS in less than four years!"
You guys are assholes.
No. You can't blame medicaid for the run up of 5 trillion in debt.
No. You can't even blame Obama for the run up in 5 trillion in debt.
You can blame tax cuts. You can blame a lawless deregulated FIRE sector, of which the major beneficiaries as of late have been the lawyers.
Hell, if you want to blame medical costs for the rise in debt, I'll go along. Yeah, medical costs are an insane weight upon everyone in the American system because they're run by professionals, just like the banks and law firms, who are driving up the prices for their services, just like the bankers and the lawyers.
And the government has done a better job than the private sector at restraining those costs while providing coverage.
What have the republicans done to contain costs when they've had the opportunity, HUH? NOTHING.
And maybe that history has a little something to do with why there's an extra 5 trillion dollars on the nation's credit card.
But that would involve accepting some personal responsibility and republicans don't do that.
Because you're assholes.
#4 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 25 Sep 2012 at 03:56 AM
In Lieberman Liberal La La Land, all we ever read about is the potential hardship some nonproductive benefit recipient will endure if single welfare dollar is taken away and instead remains in the pocket of the guy who earned it.
Now we can take away HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS from Medicare providers and that won't create any hardship for anybody, at least not according to Trudy. Cause when you cut a mere HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS in funding to health care providers, that has no effect on services, of course. Doctors, nurses, lab techs, drivers, janitors and cooks all decide to work for free, and POOF!!!! -- with a dab of magic from the Gubmint Money Fairy, all is fixed!.
Nor does it ever create any hardship when the dollar is taken from producers in taxes, fees or "penalties". We don't even consider that part of the equation. Talk about something else.
Taxes don't ever hurt anybody and they never cost society anything in Lieberman Liberal La La Land. Indeed, Gubmint spending programs can provide better services, save everybody money, shrink the deficit, stop genital mutilation, forge world peace, save the whales and fulfil every other liberal dream.
But cutting benefits - nay, merely the idea that a proposal could possibly create a situation whereby benefits might be cut - is the end of the damned world in Lieberman Liberal La La Land.
Well, it's all BS. The Medicaid racket keeps trust lawyers in business. Everybody scams the system to hide assets to get Medicaid to pay for nursing homes, and the scam is legal. As long as all the assets are placed in trust 5 years ahead of time, anybody can scam Medicaid.
Anytime ANY Gubmint boondoggle cuts checks, people figure out how to bilk the system (legally and illegally).
The way to solve the problem is simple. Government operated convalescent care.
Grandma can't take care of herself and her family can't/won't take care of her?
Fine. The Gubmint should take care of her - BUT in a Gubmint facility.
The Gubmint should NOT be cutting checks to others except as payment for wages, goods or services (to the government, not to individuals).
#5 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Tue 25 Sep 2012 at 04:00 PM
Sorry, but your rant has to do with Medicaid how?
And you're exploring the relation between block grants and defined benefit funding for programs how again?
Look, you don't like the poor, we get it, but none of what you're saying has anything to do with the topic except in the sense that you like to make fun of the author.
If you got a point, dude, make it. Your "I donwaannna spend my money on no poors!" shtick is old and repetitive. You really don't want to do anything about the excessive rents being charged to the American people by private sector care nor take any steps to improve the system so it serves the interests of those who need to use it. That's fine. You can be an asshole all day if you want. But remember:
A) there, but by the grace of God, go thee.
B) just because a post has the name Trudy beside it doesn't give you licence to crap all over it with your La la Lieberman bs, Valois. Both you and Dan really don't make any effort to engage the author's premise, prefering to do your typical digs and spray your traditional graphetti. You're an inch above the essay writing spam this place usually gets.
You can't even be bothered to do a search of the archives for where the half trillion comes from and why the hospitals agreed to it:
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/medicare_and_the_716_billion_b.php
"Most of these cuts centered on reduced reimbursements to providers—mostly to hospitals, which agreed to smaller payments over 10 years in return for more patients with insurance, which the ACA promised to deliver. In other words, they didn’t squawk about it."
Obama's approach got cost savings by trading the cost of treating the uninsured in the hospital for reduced medicare/medicaid billing. Romney's approach is... hard to say, but it's not this.
So yeah, if you can't be bothered, don't bother. You're just wasting space on the site with lie machine spittle. Trudy deserves better than that.
#6 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 25 Sep 2012 at 10:22 PM
For the record,
Thimbles continues to misidentify me by name here. He has misidentified a practicing attorney by name and has accused her of being a pedophile.
I'm not arguing with Thimbles over his juvenile and malicious defamation.
I'm just making a record for the benefit of the attorney he continues to defame and so I will insert this text once into any comment thread where he mentions this lady.
#7 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Wed 26 Sep 2012 at 11:22 AM
Trudy's "premise" is as invariable as it is one-sided.
She is only interested in protecting and expanding Gubmint payments to beneficiaries. PERIOD. When some lady who made $32 an hour elected to take early retirement and split her time between her Palm Beach home and her summering in the Outer Banks... What do we get out of Trudy? A sob story premised on the "injustice" the woman supposedly endured in having to work part-time at a gift shop to get her satellite TV bill paid. The AGONY!
Or some concocted "man on the street" interview with a professional liberal shill posing as a "random business owner".
That's what we get out of Trudy.
Do we hear about the guy like the guy I met last week at my son's game? The guy making $12.50 an hour at the pipe plant who sees more than 10 percent of his pay going to pay this elective early retiree's jet fare? Do we see the story of him talking with his wife (who just lost her job) trying to figure out how they're going to pay for their kid's school clothes and also pay for groceries next week without getting the power cut off?
Nope. This family doesn't exist in Lieberman Liberal La La Land.
Well, these welfare/entitlement benefit payments come from productive people at a hardship. That's just the R-E-A-L-I-T-Y, whether Trudy ignores it or not.
In Lieberman Liberal La La Land, there is no consideration ever given to the hardships endured by those who PAY for care, and Trudy mistreats her readers by refusing to address these hardships.
Running up a credit card isn't "funding" anything, despite Trudy's assertion to the contrary.
And THERE you have it! There's the "point, Dude".
Trudy is an ACTIVIST, not a JOURNALIST, at least not by any fair definition of the term.
It's not especially complicated, Thimbles.
#8 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Wed 26 Sep 2012 at 11:45 AM
"Thimbles continues to misidentify me by name here."
Suuuuure I do.
"He has misidentified a practicing attorney by name"
No I haven't. Not once.
"and has accused her of being a pedophile."
That is defamation. I have never accused anyone of being a pedophile but you and that was in response to your habit of lobbing ludicrous accusations of communism to anyone you disagreed with. I said quite specifically that if we're just going to throw terms at each other without respect for their meaning then YOU are a pedophile. The point of the label in that conversation was satire. It was an obvious point.
I never created an association between anyone named V----- and the word pedophile. You did.
And I never associated your handle with anyone known as V-----. V----- is a common name. You could be Paul or Michael for all I know. Are you going to going to start a class action on behalf of everyone named V----- based on Internet comments?
You're a joke Padi. Take back your defamatory comments and appologize or I shall unleash the terror that is binding legal action over the internet! I'll brook your slander no longer, scoundrel!
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/279/d/4/oooga_booga_booga_poster_by_tandp-d4c0eth.jpg
#9 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 26 Sep 2012 at 08:46 PM
"When some lady who made $32 an hour elected to take early retirement"
You never like to cite your bs.
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_times_finds_the_people_ang.php
Wonder why.
"Or some concocted "man on the street" interview with a professional liberal shill posing as a "random business owner""
A) that wasn't her, that was NPR.
B) he wasn't a professional shill. He was a guy cited by a couple of stories on different topics. Unlike the professional shill for the right who NPR interviewed as a man on the street.
"She is only interested in protecting and expanding Gubmint payments to beneficiaries. PERIOD."
She has been the one exploring the actual costs of programs and the actual effects of those costs on actual people.
I know you don't like that but that is not the same as your "She's a BIG FAT COMMIE" critique. You're a sucky human being for playing that game, Val.
"Do we see the story of him talking with his wife (who just lost her job) trying to figure out how they're going to pay for their kid's school clothes and also pay for groceries next week without getting the power cut off?"
They're choosing to make that money, Val. The wife's choosing to be unemployed. And if their power gets cut off and they can't afford the groceries, it's because they refused to WORK. Right? You must have given him that speech you give to us whenever it suits your fancy, right? You wouldn't want him to be a lousy 47% moocher, right?
"Running up a credit card isn't "funding" anything, despite Trudy's assertion to the contrary."
Make up your mind, fascist. Is it the poor man making $12 an hour funding the program or the gubmint borrowing from the bond market?
Again your words have no rhyme, no reason, no consistency. You huck talking points at the canvas and ask us to admire the pretty picture. You have nothing thoughtful to offer because you've never bothered to think. Greed isn't a thinking man's excercise.
And the real reason you object to Trudy's work because of the thought she's put behind it from every angle - from the user to the system to its budget.
And that just gets on your hysterical nerves, don't it.
#10 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 26 Sep 2012 at 09:39 PM
"You must have given him that speech you give to us whenever it suits your fancy, right?"
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/demonizing-poor-its-whats-for-dinner.html
http://img.waffleimages.com/082380ad7c7d6b5d6fec6b10a7440f77de84962d/lucky%20ducky%2010.gif
Gotcha.
#11 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 26 Sep 2012 at 11:58 PM
Only in the very weird and mythical world of the farthest right, where the fevered imagination stretches to the breaking point, is Joseph Lieberman a liberal.
#12 Posted by kabosh, CJR on Thu 27 Sep 2012 at 07:06 PM
Medicaid will be a huge problem over the next 20 years. The problem for this program will come from the aging population. The cost of care needed for those that are over 65 has risen to an average of about $300,000. The bulk of our seniors don't have that kind of money. Most of them live on their social security income.
The rising cost of care however is going up. The average cost for nursing home care in Washington State for example is $8,000 per month. Is it no wonder that they are running out of money and the state is having to step in with the Medicaid program?
We have just hit the tip of the iceberg. We have to do something!
Bob Francis -
Senior Care Concierge -
http://scconcierge.net
#13 Posted by Senior Care Concierge, CJR on Sun 30 Sep 2012 at 11:57 AM
An obvious reform is to block grant Medicaid funds to the states. This would grant them greater flexibility in tailoring Medicaid offerings to their state's specific needs, and would place the onus upon the states to limit spending.
Block grants would encourage states to mimic successful private health care delivery reforms, and if those reforms reduce spending on acute care by just 4% per year, annual spending would fall by $9.5 billion (http://bit.ly/MhHbk8).
Block grants would remove a significant incentive for states to inflate the price of health care by imposing health care taxes that increase federal matching funds.
Such a reform would likely have the same impact as was seen when Aid to Families with Dependent Children (a federal funds matching program) was converted to Temporary Assistance for Needy Families block grants. In that case, caseloads fell, poverty was reduced and states streamlined the process.
#14 Posted by Carly EngageAmerica, CJR on Tue 2 Oct 2012 at 04:31 PM