Marketplace’s Heidi N. Moore lays into a listener for getting upset about Wall Street wanting to cut her entitlements.
In a Tumblr post responding to the listener’s letter to Marketplace, Moore says she and the rest of the press are just reporting what powerful people are saying, whether you want to hear it or not.
Well, take your hands off your ears. Read the business section. Read the political stories. Are you listening? We are not weaving tales. We are here to tell you what people are saying that’s going to affect your life. That’s our job. And when you shoot the messenger, you’re wasting your energy and mine.
And when you shoot the audience, you are helping… whom?
Let’s unpack this. One problem is that passing along what (powerful) “people are saying” is only part of the journalist’s job. You can’t really expect your readers—who, unlike us, aren’t paid to sit and read news and commentary all day long—to figure out what’s really going on by telling them “X said we need to this about the debt,” or “I have talked to a lot of people on Wall Street and they say they won’t take this deficit-cutting talk seriously until they see the government cutting programs like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
So, is there another point of view? Yes! Maybe that’s what the listener, not unreasonably, was asking.
Like the GOP and Wall Street, apparently, Moore’s pain here comes all from the spending side, with nary a mention of revenues:
For Treasury bonds to stay strong, the U.S. has to keep its credit rating. For the U.S. to keep its credit rating, the $14 trillion deficit has to be cut by $6 to $8 trillion over the next decade or so. Let’s think about the math there. $8 trillion American dollars.
How are you going to do that? You can end every war and de-fund the Pentagon and you still wouldn’t get there. So we know it’s going to hurt like hell. It’s going to involve programs that have become part of the fabric of our society and things we’ve come to depend on. It’s going to involve education, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. That’s just the math.
That’s just “the math”? I hope most journalists don’t really believe this, because it’s wrong.
First, that $14 trillion is the accumulated national debt, not the deficit. And I don’t know where the “$6 to $8 trillion” figure comes from. S&P, the only one threatening a downgrade, said three weeks ago that $4 trillion would do (and by the way, “defunding” the pentagon, if that’s what anyone is suggesting, would save roughly $6 trillion to $7 trillion, for whatever that’s worth).
The CBPP, which, importantly, has numbers to back up its argument, says we could prevent the debt from rising over the next decade by simply letting the Bush tax cuts expire with no cuts to entitlements. Remember, this would simply take us back to Clinton-era tax rates. Here’s what would happen, according to the CBO, if we abided by current law:
And other people who have done “the math” over the long run (beyond the next decade Moore is talking about here) believe that it’s basically health care costs that have to be reined in, while Social Security should be fine).
And all this is quite apart from the deeper argument about whether even presenting both sides is enough. Even if you add in “X said this, but Y disagreed, “X and Y are in partisan deadlock. That’s politics for you,” You’re still stuck with he said/she said journalism.
Here are some numbers from the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, showing—who knew?—that most of the deficits over the next ten years are from the Bush tax cuts—both for the rich and the not-rich.
Which is why you could solve the problem without entitlement cuts. Somebody should tell Wall Street.
Moore’s been an ardent defender of the business press in the past, particularly over whether it served readers well in the runup to the crisis. We’ve had our disagreements and that’s okay.
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I was especially charmed by her tacit acknowledgement of US fascism:
She's thrown her lot in with the vicious circle of money and power. Call it what it is, Ryan: corporate communications. (Ironically, it is a bit disappointing but not terribly surprising to see this boosterism funded by the American taxpayer...)
#1 Posted by Jonathan, CJR on Mon 8 Aug 2011 at 03:31 PM
There is not a rating low enough to give to the general caucus of American journalism. Journalism's failure is one of the primary drivers of our problems.
#2 Posted by Edwin Perello, CJR on Mon 8 Aug 2011 at 07:25 PM
"The fault lies not with the stars, dear Brutus, but with ourselves."
Quit kevetching. Are you a Republican? Then start working in your county or state party. Democrat? Do like me and become a precinct chair. One does not need to be king to have an effect on politics. One must only try.
Do not do so because you will have a "a measurable effect." Do so because that is the right thing to do within the institutional restraints of the good ole' US of A. (PS if your an "independent," you have chosen to let others make the majority of choices for you... With a commensurate loss in warrant to kvetch.)
While the business and political press share some of the blame for acting like adolescents with a crush, the People are always more blameworthy in a republic or democracy. If you find the popular press isn't doing a good job, don't read it. Find another source of news. Mostly take some bloody responsibility.
#3 Posted by Adam L, CJR on Tue 9 Aug 2011 at 09:07 AM
The liberals have nothing left except this "cut defense spending and raise taxes" schtick... The same old overbeaten drum.
Never mind the fact that eliminating the defense budget entirely would leave a deficit greater than that we've seen under any previous administration...
Never mind the fact that defense spending, as a percentage of GDP, is at a nearly historical low.
Never mind the fact that the notion of raising taxes in an economy dealing with more than 9% unemployment is just ludicrous...
Keep the Gravy flowing!... Tax. Borrow. Spend.
Well, the truth is that the Gravy Train has derailed and there is simply no way it's getting righted on the rails now, no matter what. Even if the liberals had the votes to fund boondoggle social programs, the interest on the newly downgraded debt will eat any money that could go to the commie nonsense.
#4 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Tue 9 Aug 2011 at 10:01 AM
Ryan, you cited the left-wing Center for Budget and Policy Priorities' graphic on taxes and spending. Is the Cato Institute on board with the same numbers? Probably not. Then I'd think credibility required a review of the CBPP projections of the past. Should be easy to round up some, since the CBPP appears to have a pipeline to the mainstream media.
Who knows, the CBPP may be right. I'm just asking. All my life I've read projections and heard predictions from left-wing sources that haven't panned out. You know what? I've heard plenty of right-wing ones, too. I strongly doubt that the idea the CBPP might begin with its conclusions and work back from there is beyond fair consideration. Left-wing think-tanks, as well as right-wing ones, know who their funding sources are, and know what they want to hear. Is the credibility you give to CBPP numbers based on your own dispassionate analysis of their past work, or on your own politics?
#5 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Tue 9 Aug 2011 at 12:44 PM
"While the business and political press share some of the blame for acting like adolescents with a crush, the People are always more blameworthy in a republic or democracy. If you find the popular press isn't doing a good job, don't read it. Find another source of news. Mostly take some bloody responsibility."
In this case, a member of the people wrote in to a journalist to express her view of a journalist's work and her perspective on the entitlements wall street is itching to cut. That is taking on responsibility. That is confronting near-sighted media. That is an assertion of democratic participation.
Getting back to Ryan's work, one of the major problems with media is not just that they present a half picture in which entitlements must be cut and revenues mustn't be considered, there is a real lack of knowledgeable looking outside America.
With rare exceptions:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
the media is not looking at other countries and examining their models in how they deal with similar problems.
By refusing to examine the experiences of other countries, media and policy makers limit their imaginations to what their cocktail guests and lobbyists tell them is possible. During the bank collapse, this was most apparent because - again with rare exceptions - the crisis not only neglected the experiences of Japan, Sweden, Argentina, and others, but it has neglected its own history when dealing with the savings and loan debacle.
Now, America is committing itself to an austerity path after it stumbled down the Tokyo road to a Japanese "lost decade" bank crisis solution. Are there other countries who are implementing austerity policies? How is Ireland doing? How is England doing? How is Iceland doing in comparison?
We have a press who has little to no knowledge of the past, little to no knowledge of the rest of the world, little to no knowledge outside their little bubble of a beat - knowledge of which was acquired over cocktails.
And these are the people who are supposed to opine about our future? These people of little knowledge and less imagination are supposed to discuss our present options to solve national problems? These guys who shilled for Bush's wars, Bush's security state, Bush's tax cuts, and Bush's failed social security privatization.
And in that case, Bush failed because enraged citizens organized and spoke to their representatives, telling them that they would be the ones out on the curb if they kept pushing entitlement reform despite how privatized social security worked in post crash Chile and Argentina. They didn't do this because some journalist finally presented the facts and made a case for action, they did this because they depended on this program, they were concerned about suggested changes, and they did some research.
Citizens need to be this vigilant about all policy - including Obama's wars, Obama's security state, Obama's tax cuts, and Obama's likely attempts to cut social security. He's paid by Wall street. Of course he's going to listen to them.
But journalists aren't. They don't need to act and report based solely on what wall street says and how wall street feels. And yes, citizens can react based on the available facts despite journalists inability to report them, but journalism is a catalyst to citizen reactions. It can make it easier or harder for citizens to find their voices and confront power over accurate and legitimate issues. The primary purpose of journalism is to better inform, and by virtue improve, the society and the citizens within.
It's not to sell makeup or spread the latest Washington gossip / prejudice or to ingratiate yourself to powerful people who have a high salary and a golf membership lined up for you if you play ball.
Be a catalyst for a better world, b
#6 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 9 Aug 2011 at 12:58 PM
"the available facts despite journalists inability to report them, but journalism is a catalyst to"
citizen reaction. They can increase or decrease the reaction rate between citizens and information. The purpose of journalism is to assist in creating a better informed society populated by better informed, better thinking citizens.
It's not to sell makeup, it's not to spread washington gossip and prejudice, it's not to ingratiate yourself with powerful people who can offer high salaries and golf memberships based on your ability to play ball. Your purpose it to be a catalyst for a better world.
Which is not easy, since by attempting this task you make enemies of those who profit from a worse world. But if people are measured by the characteristics of their opposition, you could do worse than this.
You could be David Brooks.
#7 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 9 Aug 2011 at 01:14 PM
Now, Ryan. Are we being fair to Heidi N. Moore? It’s not like she is just running around “talk[ing] to a lot of people on Wall Street,” okay? She also has to tell everyone that she does— blogging as her deranged alter-ego, The Truant Muse— and dash out updates in her preferred medium, which is (appropriately) the Twit Pic.
Do you think Elizabeth Fisher of Laconia, NH, can spew that many exclamation marks in a single paragraph, Ryan? Do you? How many NPR listeners make it past 10th grade with vocabularies full of words like “sucks,” “tortured artiste” and “bitch goddess”? Face it. They need her wisdom.
They don’t need critical reporting, nuance or, like, background research. “This is why those Greeks were rioting”: because “austerity is not easy.” Take that, Elizabeth Fischer, 63. Heidi N. Moore totally gets your misguided desire to “survive the rest of [your] life.” Do *you* get how much it costs to impress coked-out investment bankers who find you annoying? I don’t think so.
Seriously: If that’s what she does to listeners, imagine what she’ll do to the messenger who tells her how much money her work is worth.
There are too many things wrong with her rant, as in factually incorrect. I can’t believe they let that screeching lunatic represent their organization. My NPR membership may die over this.
When I want to support a platform for people who are ignorant and proud of it, I’ll listen to talk radio.
#8 Posted by It's the credibility, stupid, CJR on Tue 9 Aug 2011 at 06:00 PM