Audit host Dean Starkman makes an appearance on NPR’s Talk of the Nation to discuss his giant story “Power Problem,” out now in the new issue of the Columbia Journalism Review.

It’s about 12:30 in.

David Wessel, The Wall Street Journal’s economic editor, one of the sharper guys in the business, is on the earlier half of the show, and has lots of good stuff to say, as well.

Have a listen.