Actually, the Census Bureau keeps data on smaller entities. They’re called “cities.”
But listen, we like MSAs, and Forbes.com uses them for twenty of its top twenty-five cities. They’re mostly fine for this kind thing. We think, however, MDs are a lame excuse for “cities,” and should not be used. And why mix different categories, MSAs and MDs, and call them both “cities,” which neither is? And are Framingham and Cambridge really the same place?
When we asked Andelman for further clarification, he responded in an e-mail saying that beyond what he had already told us, “We feel the story and related slideshow as they appear on Forbes.com speak for themselves, and we don’t have anything further to
add.”
In an interview, Bert Sperling, who runs the site that provided data to Forbes.com, said that using Metropolitan Divisions made sense because they offered a narrower slice of an MSA. He also cautioned us against too rigorous an analysis of Forbes’s lists, which are often, as he carefully put it, “quirky” and “lighthearted in analysis.”
But even MSAs can be a problem. Take Raleigh and Durham. Forbes.com treats the two separately even though they are virtually on top of each other. Indeed, they were until they became quite recently part of the same Census-defined MSA—until, that is, the House Office of Management and Budget changed many of its statistical definitions after the 2000 Census.
Still, we always thought Raleigh (nineteenth) was stupider than Durham (fourteenth), and now we know it’s true.
Then there’s the problem of false precision, a hallmark of the business press. “Bridgeport,” at 39.33 percent, is a tenth of point smarter than the San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara MSA, at 39.23 percent. What’s the difference? A couple of comp-lit grads in Fairfield? Other entries have differences almost as small and are inside the margin of error. As long as we’re playing statistician, there’s no statistical difference between the two, um, cities.
The OMB warns against using these definitions for anything other than statistical purposes. In a 2005 bulletin, the OMB stated that these statistical areas “are not intended to serve as a general-purpose geographic framework for nonstatistical activities.” It also says:
It is generally not appropriate to rank or directly compare Metropolitan Divisions with Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas.
But did Forbes.com listen? No, it did not.
Finally, we feel bad that our hometown, New York, didn’t make the list at all.
With offices on Fifth Avenue, Forbes is not helping.
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LOL...
The moonbat "watchdogs" of "professional journalism" manage to cram the "waterboarding=torture" baloney into every single piece of CJR garbage they can!...
CJR is nothing but pathetic liberal mouthpiece..
For the record, if you see any of this http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0524072torture1.html going on in Bridgeport, then maybe we can start talking about torture.
Posted by padikiller
on Sat 23 Feb 2008 at 10:18 AM
Dear padi k,
That's a most interesting web site which you provide for all of our edification. A TimeWarner subsidiary. Who could ask for a better pedigree for accuracy in the media? All other references to these so-called primitive drawings, which seem to be done by someone with reasonable art skills and owe much to the work of Edvard Munch, appear on such venues of veracity as Fox News and the Media Research Center. We all know just how objective Brent Bozell can be when he's "reporting" on the state of media honesty.
Posted by Jack
on Mon 25 Feb 2008 at 03:02 PM
Dear Jack,
Are you saying that the Al Quaida manual was in fact planted in perpetuation of the VRWC ("Vast right wing conspiracy")?...
Got any of those "fact-thingies" to support your silly contention?
Posted by padikiller
on Mon 25 Feb 2008 at 10:35 PM
I'm saying that you provide nothing more than asinine speculation that even the military command in Iraq does not support. There's good reason that the news media that has been gung ho about our Iraqi adventure from day one won't even give that story legs.
Posted by Jack
on Tue 26 Feb 2008 at 12:32 AM
More on the story with "no legs"..
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/23/iraq.main/index.html
Jack needs to spend a little less time on the beanstalk, and a lot more time here in Realityville.
Liberals just can't accept the fact that our military is routing Islamofascist terrorists who are actually doing that "real torture thing"..
Posted by padikiller
on Tue 26 Feb 2008 at 01:44 AM