God versus science is back in the news — again. As sure as Newton’s Third Law of Motion, that every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the new schism between the two cultures comes right on the heels of intelligent design’s potent attack on scientific education in the United States.
A new book by Oxford University professor Richard Dawkins’ — The God Delusion - is driving a groundswell of opposition to what Wired calls “The New Atheism: No Heaven. No Hell. Just Science.” Reviews in the New York Times Book Review, Harper’s, and Seed, whose masthead declares, “Science is Culture,” all dispute Dawkins’ logic, despite the authors’ strong dispositions to accept reason before faith.
One specification of the third law is that when two objects collide, opposite forces are equal, but acceleration is not. Therefore, upon impact, an object with more mass will stand its ground while an object with less mass rebounds in the other direction. In practical terms, this is why a bounced ball comes back at your face rather than knocking the Earth from beneath your feet. But does this hold up when applied to the collision between the two cultures?
Before I attempt to answer that, it should be noted that when scientist and novelist C.P. Snow first coined the “two cultures” in 1959, he was describing a dichotomy between scientists and “literary intellectuals” that was so vast neither side could effectively converse with the other. This is different than the clash between God and science, but the same dipolar description of knowledge still rings true. Another difference in the new relationship between the two cultures is that, far from Snow’s premise of a divergence of languages, now the two sides are on a collision course partially because they attempt use the same rhetoric.
So what happens on impact? Last year, science clearly proved itself more massive when intelligent design, a veiled piece of creationism, hit a wall and cracked — politically, judicially, and educationally. Now, the “new atheism” is pushing back with an equal and opposite reaction. But its proponents are finding that their logic is also not as massive as it seemed.
On Sunday, Mike Holt dissected Dawkins’ work in the New York Times Book Review, finding himself on the same fence shared by many people who celebrated the defeat of intelligent design. To this “in between” group, as Holt describes it, Dawkins’ arguments sound right, they even feel right, but something still does not jibe. Holt likens reading The God Delusion to watching a Michael Moore film: “There is lots of good, hard-hitting stuff about the imbecilities of religious fanatics and frauds of all stripes, but the tone is smug and the logic occasionally sloppy.” Point by point, Holt parries and counters Dawkins’ characterizations of religion as an evolutionary byproduct, a historical phenomenon, and a philosophical argument.
The November edition of Harper’s took its rebuttal a step farther with the headline, “In Defense of the Religion,” a critique of Dawkins’ “Hysterical Scientism.” Author Marilynne Robinson deconstructs many of same arguments that Holt does, although she sees even fewer redeeming qualities in the atheist perspective. “A pervasive exclusion of historical memory in Dawkins’ view of science,” especially frustrated her. Robinson was one of a number of critics to rebuke the author’s tendency to compare the pluses of science with the minuses of religion. “Dawkins critique of religion cannot properly be called scientific,” she wrote. Just as the press was insulted by intelligent design’s use of scientific logic, it is now insulted by a scientist’s use of philosophical rhetoric.
With this mixing of the waters in mind, Wired’s Gary Wolf set out on a fascinating journey to identify congregants in “The Church of Non-Believers,” and find out whether or not they could convert him. Like Holt and Robinson, Wolf is inclined toward science and reason rather than religion and faith. But was he ready to follow the call of the new atheists and categorically reject any notion of the divine? What he uncovers, with his unique approach to reporting, is that few people are willing to make such a commitment. At broody meetings around Los Angeles, Wolf found that, “Typical atheists are hardly the rabble-rousing evangelists that Dawkins or [Sam] Harris might like. They are an older, peaceable, quietly frustrated lot, who meet partly out of idealism and partly out of loneliness.”
The “faces” of the new atheism number half a dozen in Wolf’s cover story. Dawkins’ is the leading figure, joined by neuroscientist Sam Harris, who has an equally uncompromising distaste for religion. Others in the vanguard tend to make room for some level of spirituality, including scientist and Bad Religion rocker Greg Graffin and the irreverent comic duo, Penn and Teller. The most interesting character is Tufts University philosopher Daniel Dennett, who seems, according to Wolf’s description, much more cognizant of logic’s limitations in tackling faith. But none of these Godless priests are able to convert the scientifically inclined author to full atheistic belief. “Myself, I’ve decided to refuse the call,” writes Wolf. “The irony of the New Atheism — this prophetic attack on prophecy, this extremism in opposition to extremism — is too much for me.”
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So, were you planning to link to the Wired article? Jeez, louise.
Here it is.
Posted by Kevin B. O'Reilly on Tue 24 Oct 2006 at 02:11 PM
One of CJR's "watchdogs" butchers Newtonian mechanics
"One specification of the third law is that when two objects collide, opposite forces are equal, but acceleration is not. Therefore, upon impact, an object with more mass will stand its ground while an object with less mass rebounds in the other direction. In practical terms, this is why a bounced ball comes back at your face rather than knocking the Earth from beneath your feet."
padikiller spills the scientific beans
In FACT, Newton's Third law does NOT relate mass and acceleration... This relationship is described instead by his Second Law which states (for an object of constant mass) that Force = Mass * Acceleration
Newton's Third Law in FACT states that any force applied by one object against another with be countered with an equal and opposite force.
Finally, when any two objects collide without sticking to each other, neither of them will "stand its ground".... Indeed, Newton's laws explicity forbid such behavior. In FACT, BOTH objects will experience acceleration and each of their respective velocities will change as a result of the collision...
In FACT, a bouncing ball does indeed "knock the Earth" under it, although the accleration imparted to the Earth by a bouncing ball is so small that it is imperceptible.
Posted by padikiller on Tue 24 Oct 2006 at 04:43 PM
Poor choice of metaphor at the end: as everyone who's used one knows, a Newton's cradle stops after a little while. The conservation of energy isn't perfect in this case due to complexities like air resistance.
Which is a convenient segue to the real problem here: not scientists talking like preachers (or the converse), it's journalists shoehorning complexity into facile, preconceived narratives. The CJR routinely zings political coverage for this sin, but this piece is almost as bad in forcing the current crop of atheist literature into a "God vs. science" trope. (All that's missing is a "Red vs. Blue" comparison.) It's easy and comforting (because it saves us from thinking about hard questions) to say the pendulum is swinging from one extreme to another, as it always has been and always will. But it's just false to do so.
Case in point: this article's attempt at historical background. Points for trying, but this is little more than historical cherry-picking. Lucretius, e.g., was writing in an era every bit as religious as the middle ages. It just wasn't all under one theological umbrella. What's striking about the "pendulum swings" since the Enlightenment is not their "equal and opposite" nature, but the extent to which atheism has gained traction. Before modernity, atheists were social and intellectual pariahs, even among highly educated classes. There simply weren't any openly atheist intellectuals before the Renaissance. (Lucretius dedicates his poem to the goddess Venus, and does not do so ironically.) But with the triumph of science from the 17th century onward, atheism has gradually become (mostly) socially acceptable. And likewise, religion has slowly receded. This trend is easy to overlook in the U.S., where religious extremism has deep historical roots and creates a lot of political smoke, but the evaporation of traditional religion is obvious in Europe and Japan.
In fact, the hot button stories in religion today make a lot more sense in the context of the growth of atheism: intelligent design is religion essaying a "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" strategy to co-opt the onrushing tide of discoveries in biology and genetics. And practically half the stories in the Middle East are at some level about Islam's struggle to reconcile itself with modernity (i.e., the world where secularism has, tacitly at least, broken religion's monopoly on the public sphere).
Sure, Dawkins's book has gotten negative reviews. Now, that might be because his book isn't very good. It might be because people don't like extremist views. Or it might be for much the same reasons that many intellectuals said Copernicus's theories, while predictively superior to the Church's, weren't really true: a sentimental attachment to religion prevents them from owning up to truths they've already admitted in the practice of their lives. Saying this is all part of an endless pendulum swing is missing the story.
Posted by MRooney on Wed 25 Oct 2006 at 03:53 AM
Hello all,
Here's my two bits on this ongoiang discussion and a path to a solution. Hope you can appreciate my efforts to deliver a true solution.
Analyzing the Creator Debate
Did you ever consider that atheism arose because certain people saw that religious characterizations about the nature of an omnipotent "God" were seriously flawed and then concluded that religion and the Creator were the same things? This is the exact same conclusion at the base of religious beliefs; namely that the Creator and religion are inseparable. Consequently, both atheists and religious followers are arguing over a flawed assumption without considering that other possibilities negate the common core conclusion of both groups. These arguments are actually over religion and whether it represents a reliable model of reality. The answer to this question is of course not. Religion is not only flawed, it is purposely deceptive! Though atheists are certainly sincere in their conclusions, the fact remains that they and religious followers are locked in a debate that cannot be won by either side because both base their positions upon whether the same flawed premise is the truth. In order for this debate to conclude with a truthful answer, a greater level of discernment is required.
One apt clarifying question is, if someone tells lies about you, does that negate you or make you a liar or a lie? Certainly, the image cast about you would be a false one, but that is their image, not the real you. Consequently, faulty religious assertions about the Creator of this universe do not negate the existence of a Creator. Considering the possibility that this universe is not by chance leaves the door open to how it arose, which leads us to seek what could have created and maintained it. Since neither religion nor science has yet adequately answered this question, it is safe to conclude that those who argue about the Creator based on either are most certainly wrong about one or more aspects. Therefore, another point of view and additional knowledge are required.
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Posted by Seven Star Hand on Sun 5 Nov 2006 at 06:33 PM
This article's tone is indicative of the fact that religious bigotry against atheism in the US is still strong enough that too many atheists are still afraid to self-identify as such. Really, it's not much more than that.
In much of Europe there is less hesitation by atheists in self-identifying precisely because there is less social stigma in doing so. The "something" that people don't like about Dawkins is the fact that they were brainwashed from birth that "atheists" were evil. Such subconscious ideas can survive logic, and apparently do for many people. I've talked to many people who are atheists, but squirm around when discussing that, and often cannot bring themselves to admit it. In a few decades more of hammering away, this sort of reticence will end.
Posted by seathanaich on Tue 21 Jul 2009 at 03:53 PM