Our job as the Washington bureau is obviously not to recommend policy to the Congress, and I think it’s important to acknowledge that’s a little different than my previous job. Our job instead is to cover what’s actually happening and cover it in a clear-eyed way that doesn’t rely alone on what people are saying. And those aren’t always obvious calls—you can often find someone, somewhere, who will dispute something that many people consider to be an objective truth.
I think the important thing to say is there is no escaping those decisions. You can’t simply say, well, we are only going to accept objective truths that are universally acknowledged to be objective truths, because almost nothing is universally acknowledged. So where do you draw the line? Do you say, we’re going to acknowledge all objective truths that in polls 95% of Americans acknowledge? Do you say we’re going to draw it at 80%? And I don’t think you can ultimately hand over that decision to some kind of numerical measure.
We already make those decisions. For example, we cover the deficit as if the notion that the U.S. is on an unsustainable fiscal path is an objective truth. There are some people who essentially reject that truth, but we don’t let the existence of that opinion sway us from covering the deficit story in a way that acknowledges that we have long-term unsustainability problem. We acknowledge some of the uncertainty about that problem. We do not say the way to solve it is X or Y. But we start from a base that the Congressional Budget Office and the vast majority of economists who say that we cannot continue on this fiscal path are correct.
Are there other areas in which you think that necessary decision has been evaded?
That’s probably a better question for me to try to answer in six months or a year, and I’m happy to try to do so. I don’t really feel like I’m qualified to answer it now. The only thing I’m going to say is that we didn’t get together as a bureau at any point and decide the deficit was a problem, nor did the press corps as a whole, anymore than we got together as a bureau and decided that the fact the earth orbits the sun was a fact. The funny thing is making these calls is not always obvious, and yet we can’t escape making them.
And sometimes we need to acknowledge that there is no such call—sometimes we need to acknowledge that, you know what, we don’t know what’ll happen if the government raises taxes. I don’t mean to suggest you can always say there is some large universal truth. But I certainly think we already do in many cases, and that’s part of our jobs.
That same column offered an indictment of a political culture that does not, in your words, “spend enough time focusing on our actual economic problems.” Does that criticism apply to the orientation of press coverage as well, or do you intend it only for policy makers and political elites?
I think it applies to policy makers, I think it applies to political elites, I think it applies to the press, and while this won’t win me an election, I think it applies to the American public. I think we have a society-wide problem of not focusing enough on what our real economic problems are. My favorite example is that when you read the polls, you emerge thinking that the American public is strongly in favor of the deficit. They don’t say that, but they don’t want their taxes raised and they don’t want Social Security or Medicare changed significantly. They don’t really want much major spending changed significantly, when you look at specifics. And so I do think that critique applies to the press, but I think of that as a symptom of a larger issue.

This is a good interview with thoughtful questions. What might seem to leap out for the reader is that The New York Times is operating with a silo model when that format is obsolete.
It will slow reaction to IT changes, for example. The Telegraph in the UK has produced a must-read live news phone-hacking blog beautifully incorporating Twitter, even if The Guardian's blog is better at breaking news. The NYT, which might have been able to buy Twitter in the past, is stuck with about.com. (Twitter is now apparently worth $8B.)
Major news stories in The NYT are often great reads. But the silo method means that large areas of experience go unreported. For example, there is nothing in this interview about the need for America to engage in a formal audit of practices in education, especially for colleges. By studying course descriptions online, we can easily see that colleges can't orient quickly enough to tools in Modernism, the brilliant iPad App for "The Waste Land," and the Yale annotations to same.
Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are happy to be obsolete. There is no way to get traction on this issue. The federal government is non-existent in this area. If The NYT had a formal Higher Education section, as The Australian does, it could cover these matters from a Washington perspective. Instead, it has "Education Life." Spare me.
#1 Posted by Clayton Burns, CJR on Wed 3 Aug 2011 at 11:57 AM
Though Mr. Leonhardt is a clever rhetorician, the following contradiction can not be glossed over.
Here, he lays out the NYT's m.o.: "We do not say the way to solve it is X or Y. But we start from a base that the Congressional Budget Office and the vast majority of economists ... are correct."
Later, he regrets blindly trusting those same folks: "[W]e weren’t skeptical enough. ... We were still too affected by the conventional wisdom ... I do think there are times when that happens, when it seems like everyone smart or everyone in power thinks one thing, and we need to say to ourselves, is there a chance that it’s wrong?"
(No, David. You should always ask that.)
The NYT will wiggle, swerve, sidestep, backtrack: whatever it takes to appear independent of the State. But, more so every day, shrewd observers are seeing the Old Grey Lady for the economic- and military-war cheer leader she is and always has been.
#2 Posted by Dan A., CJR on Wed 3 Aug 2011 at 01:38 PM
Not a single question about climate change. Guess it doesn't matter.
#3 Posted by Sam Penrose, CJR on Thu 4 Aug 2011 at 10:06 AM
"I wouldn’t agree, because, in part, I don’t think assigning blame is what our job is."
If your job is to report the facts and to give your audience the best representation of reality that you can manage based on those facts, then your job is to assign the blame if that is the conclusion revealed by the facts (and your economics reporting has done well in this regard in the past when it came to the origins of the deficit).
"For example, we cover the deficit as if the notion that the U.S. is on an unsustainable fiscal path is an objective truth. There are some people who essentially reject that truth, but we don’t let the existence of that opinion sway us from covering the deficit story in a way that acknowledges that we have long-term unsustainability problem."
Again there is large agreement on the US being on an unsustainable fiscal path, but there is large disagreements on the cause of that unsustainability and the required policy responses at the present time.
What are the facts of the cause? What are the facts about appropriate policy responses?If the facts point to a large segment of the body politic and punditry being horribly wrong, then the journalists job is not to sustain a true conclusion (the deficit is a problem) based on false reasoning (government spending is too high. We should lower taxes to increase revenues).
The facts are from your own reporting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html
And from CBO reports. Taxes are too low. The recession is killing revenues and increasing safety net costs. A giant demographic shift towards the old is about to occur. The American health care industry, both private and public, has costs way out of alignment with outcomes and those costs are going to skyrocket. The wind down of the financial crisis has been protracted and needlessly expensive and the new regulatory measures are not adequate to prevent further crashes. Federal spending salvaged the collapsing state economies at the cost of a worsened federal deficit. Measures to control costs that affect the benefits of private entities - be they regulations on credit, subsidizes for oil companies, cost effectiveness studies for medical procedures, the closing of foreign tax shelters used by American corporations are going to be fought every step of the way by conservative democrats and dirty republicans.
Cutting government spending now is wrong. Cutting taxes is wrong. Ignoring decaying infrastructure while surpluses of cheap capital and unemployed labor are available is wrong. The, "It's not our job," sounds a bit too much like "It's not our role" for my comfort. Please, I've admired your work up until this point, please do not let yourself become another David Gregory:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/01/20/david_gregory
#4 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 4 Aug 2011 at 01:24 PM