Although many respondents were proud of their Web sites, the sentiment was far from unanimous. Example: “The site is soooo 1990.” Asked what the Web site’s best feature was, another respondent replied: “Nothing. By any realistic standard, it stinks.” Still others said, “Our Web site is a disaster.” “Our Web site is a mess!” “Our Web site sucks.” Nevertheless, for many, the site is where the significant action is, and the responses to this survey are chock full of insights and valuable information:
- • “The Web site is more search-oriented. Print readers tend to enjoy a more serendipitous experience, whereas readers come looking for specific information online.”
- • “The Web site is designed to do what the print magazine can’t—deliver breaking news as it happens.”
- • “The Web site makes available business tools that cannot be offered via print, such as spreadsheets, interactive calculation applications, Webinars, and educational video.”
- • One newsweekly has added a full-time traffic analyst (with a master’s in statistics) to help it figure out how to increase traffic.
- • Those who can afford it are hiring high-priced “content-strategy” consultants, “information architects,” and “usability” experts to design and redesign their sites. The results are generally based on how the eye moves (i.e. vertically), which is “why so many sites look the same,” one editor helpfully explains.
The bottom line: although CJR’s survey establishes that many print people still regard Web people as second-class citizens, that sites founded solely to promote print magazines are outmoded to say the least, that profitability is up but standards (i.e., fact-checking and copy editing) are down where Web editors are in charge of the site, the survey nevertheless reveals no consensus on best practices. It is, rather, the beginning of a long-overdue conversation. Among the issues to be explored:
What does it mean that when a Web editor is in charge of both budget and content decisions, traffic and revenue increase but quality and ethical standards decrease? (Not to mention what are the lessons to be learned from studying profitable sites where quality has not decreased?)
If it is indeed true, as the statistics about staffing seem to suggest, that most magazines don’t really take the distinction between Web and print seriously, what follows, short of making Marshall McLuhan mandatory reading? For example, if, as one respondent reported, material that has already appeared in the print magazine is never re-edited for the Web, shouldn’t that practice be revisited? On the surface it seems that one ignores the cultural consequences of the new technologies at one’s peril.
In light of the high percentage of profitable magazine Web sites that offer all their content for free (65 percent), should The New York Times rethink its recent announcement that it intends to charge for content? Or conversely, at a moment when Apple’s iPad and new iPhone apps may make the very idea of someone called a “Web editor” something of an anachronism, do we need to conduct yet another survey?

Is it an "old media-new media" issue? Or is it just about being lazy and wondering: a) who will notice, and b) who will care, all the while knowing, "Eh, that's online. We can fix it."
#1 Posted by lazy paperboy, CJR on Tue 2 Mar 2010 at 10:24 AM
I'm guessing a lot of the standards issues come down to budget: When you can only afford two staff on the web, one of them is unlikely to be a dedicated copy editor, and any freelance budget will go towards content production.
#2 Posted by paper dragon, CJR on Tue 2 Mar 2010 at 02:33 PM
Golly!
How can the poor, moronic public possibly make intelligent decisions unless there is an establishmentarian (by which I mean soft Left) gatekeeper out there to filter the information flow.
Just like the "good old" pre-internet oligopoly days when the editors were disinterested gods and the Sulzbergers were a helluva lot richer.
Spare us.
Spare us especially your filtered worldview that over half the public loathed and fled the second the oligopolies crashed.
We have no damn interest in going back to the days of your immense influence.
We'll do just fine weighing the free torrent of information against our personal knowledge/experience and the unbounded free universe of information that is *now* out there.
F**king excuse me if I trust my judgment over *yours* when it comes to my life.
Yes, how sad to think in the good old days you could have lived out your life in a self-generated cocoon of smugness and not have to hear what "your" public really thought of you...
...commenting - yet another "regression" created by the internet.
Pieces like this go beyond thumbsucking...all the way to auto-fellatio about the good old days.
#3 Posted by cas127, CJR on Tue 2 Mar 2010 at 03:04 PM
^ Yes, but online media writers should all be paid. Content generated for popular sites, blogs etc should nt go without monetary compensation.
#4 Posted by thisismyhappening.blogspot.com, CJR on Tue 2 Mar 2010 at 04:17 PM
This is a worthwhile study. I think in many ways it mirrors what's been going on in the newspaper industry-- similar questions about standards, the relative lack of editing, online expertise, business models and profitability.
I'd like to comment on one point mentioned briefly in this article but explored in greater depth in the full report. There's a clear implication (It's Agenda item #1 in the report) that staffing and staff online expertise is a big issue. Much is made about how prior Web experience does not seem to be a significant criterion in hiring. I agree that it's a good idea for the Web operations of print media to have staff who have more technical expertise (that is, who know how to do more than simply dump text, photos and videos into a CMS). But it's not necessarily problematic that many staff members who work "at least some of the time" for the Web don't have Web experience. Many, if not most, newspaper reporters and editors work "at least some of the time" for the online product. If you look at what they are doing, though, you'll find that many, if not most, are doing very little that requires much, if any, prior Web experience--writing news stories and updates, captions, producing photo galleries, blogging, etc. I suspect the same thing occurs in magazines. For people who work in more Web-technical areas, coding, interface development, multimedia reporting and production, Web experience would be much more important.
#5 Posted by John Russial, CJR on Tue 2 Mar 2010 at 06:04 PM
In terms of the NY Times, they should have begun charging long ago. I do subscribe so I have no problem obtaining back items as I wish. As one mentioned that paper readers are more serendipitous in their articles chosen to read. One can't be serendipitous online. That's one of its main faults. If you don't know the person or topic you want to find more about or who wrote what about it, you won't find it. You have to know in advance. One can be serendipitous on paper but also more thorough and find items that you wish to retain first on paper, then make a copy online. Even keeping an item has its faults online since some of them charge by the month or year: i.e. Google Bookmarks. I use copy paper and binders for future children/grandchildren esp. on items that won't be basic news or high school history material. Online copy writing has become much "simpler". Two of the five overseas essay writers I keep in contact with have changed to more simple vocabulary, larger print and margins for their articles. It looks like US is not the only one becoming regressive in the reading skills. Also, I like the magazines online that give some items so that I can read if I wish but don't need a full annual subscription. Often I'll send these items on through Facebook etc. Reading literature or novels on line I find to be a "pain." I have no way to relax--though some do; and the price of Kindle and its ilk keep me from trying simply because if I lost it or it was stolen, I am out. Also, I like to keep many books I read and how do I go back 2-5 years from now and find that book--esp. if I don't remember the author's name or the title exactly??? The two can work together and expand the information and kind of reading one does--if people bother.
#6 Posted by Patricia Wilson, CJR on Tue 2 Mar 2010 at 08:28 PM
Dear cas127,
I've been a journalist all my life. My career has spanned the "pre" & "post" digital age. Try as I might, I can't understand why I should set aside solid journalistic practices such as accuracy and informed critical analysis just because the media have changed; which seems to be what you are suggesting.
You may be comfortable with a wide-ope, "wild-west" style of communication where pretty much anything goes. I am not.
I was just reading an article the other day by a self-styled, online "journalist."
She casually informed her readers that Sarah Palin had been elected as Vice-President of the United States! After basing her piece on that foundation of sand, and without any factual arguments to back her up, she went on to declare Sarah, that religiously fanatic airhead, a good person for the job!
Try as I might, I can't imagine how Cyberspace would be diminished if we had to live without this kind of drivel.
#7 Posted by Green_Senior, CJR on Wed 3 Mar 2010 at 01:56 PM
57 pages of a report covering new media yet the entire thing is image based? this alone tells me you don't get it.
#8 Posted by working_in_the_field, CJR on Wed 3 Mar 2010 at 04:47 PM
I found the article's discussion of mission, or mission statement, perhaps the most interesting.
It's such a simple thing, most online writers or editors are likely to take it for granted. Whether transitioning from print media to online media, or conducting research or journalism between the two, the mission really must adapt. The medium is different, which means the models and methods for production and delivery are different, the way your audience absorbs (and processes) information is different, and the shelf life of your research and information is vastly changed as well.
Merely overlooking or even refusing to adjust or adapt a mission/purpose statement will be the source much indecisiveness and insecurity for editors and publishers.
#9 Posted by Aaron B., CJR on Fri 5 Mar 2010 at 04:48 PM
I am sure the quality is inferior overall in web publications because I find the errors far too often, but I find errors in hard copy as well. I worked as a copy editor on a couple of occasions and it drives me slightly nuts when I find errors and wish I could find a job at one or a number of these publications.
#10 Posted by Irene, CJR on Sun 7 Mar 2010 at 11:28 PM
As another "card-carrying member of the old media" who is trying to be a part of the future as well as the past, the tone of this piece seems a cackle over the shortcomings of the web and its people. Did the powerful dinosaurs take such a stance over the weak little mammals scurrying underfoot? How much factchecking and journalistic integrity was there in the early days of newspapers, when having a printing press made you a media mogul? That's where we are today with the Web.
#11 Posted by Wayne Steffen, CJR on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 04:19 PM
Patricia....RE: "Also, I like to keep many books I read and how do I go back 2-5 years from now and find that book--esp. if I don't remember the author's name or the title exactly???"
All you have to do is remember a keyword, a name or single concept of text from the book, do a search and presto, there it will be. That's the beauty of digital. My digital pen does this with the notes I take in meetings -- all searchable, convertable to text/pdf/whatever. While they may not do it right now, it will not be hard for an iPad/Kindle-like device to do this and it will be essential. As for losing the kindle? No problem: everything will be "synched" and saved online (like your BlackBerry or iPhone is currently). Get a new one and resync.
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