Joe Wilson has become that guy. The Republican Representative from South Carolina who blurted out “You lie!” during Obama’s healthcare speech last night
and then spent the rest of the joint session of Congress scrolling through his BlackBerry, has become the subject of a new Web site: Joe Wilson Is Your Preexisting Condition, in which he is blamed for all sorts of boorish behavior. Mediate has picked out some of the choicest ones like “Joe Wilson heated up fish in your office microwave” and “Joe Wilson talked on his BlackBerry all through your favorite movie,” not to mention “Joe Wilson distracted you from one of the most important speeches from an American president in the past 20 years.”
Wilson quickly apologized after condemnations from both sides of the aisle, but as Politico reports, his outburst only galvanized Democrats around health care reform and the Wall Street Journal reports that, overnight, his Democratic rival raised about $200,000 from 5,000 people. Way to go, Joe.
Ya and you just have to wonder what his motivation was for doing that - oh wait, could it be because over his career he's received
Health Professionals $244,196
His number one contributors? And if you add in the PACS well then you get to $414,246
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=Career&type=C&cid=N00024809&newMem=N&recs=20
but that couldn't be the reason now could it .
#1 Posted by Doug Alder, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 03:47 PM
You are RIGHT Joe, Obama is a liar.
#2 Posted by Road Scholar, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:00 PM
You are RIGHT Joe, Obama is a liar.
#3 Posted by Road Scholar, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:02 PM
Regardless of your political views the Office of the President warrants a level of respect. Wilson was unappropriate and unprofessional.
#4 Posted by Vonnie, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:07 PM
I am so angry with Joe Wilson for what he said last night. He should be made to apologize to all the American People. It was very much out of order. Before the whole country, he call President Obama a liar. He dicussed me.
#5 Posted by jo sowels, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:08 PM
Joe Wilson only said what so many of us were thinking.
#6 Posted by Working Man, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:08 PM
He is the new Joe the Plumber
#7 Posted by Pat Baskfield, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:09 PM
Joe has got to go! Help out the cause http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
#8 Posted by Patrick, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:13 PM
He now joins Republican Gov. Mark Sanford in the "credit to their state" category, right up there along with California's latest unfrocked "family values" hypocrite, Assemblyman Mike Duvall,(R-Yorba Linda) who at least had the decency to resign yesterday. But "decency" and thought appear to be overwhelmed by spontaneous screaming among Republicans these days.
#9 Posted by Elite, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:15 PM
Why is it ok for Dems to heckle/boo Bush at the State of the Union, but GOP (or anyone for that matter) cannot challenge Obama?
#10 Posted by Darlene, PA, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:15 PM
Why did'nt any members of Congress yell at Bush/Cheney when they lied about WMD in Iraq? Double standard.
#11 Posted by aries1, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:16 PM
I don't always agree with any president we've had but, to call our President a liar is a disgrace to any elected official. I think he should be kicked out of office and have to make an apology on the national news. Respect is something we teach our children and if mine had done something like that he would have been punished severely. I mean come on I don't like a lot of stuff both parties do but as an elected official we need to pretend to have some manners. I don't anything about this inbred but I will always remember him for his inbred behavior. I don't want illegal aliens to have free health care either, hell health care is the reason half of us work, I agree illegals should leave the country. But don't call the President of the free world a liar!!
#12 Posted by momsuggy, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:19 PM
But part of being in a society with rules, "Working Man," is that there are times and places where you SHOULDN'T say what you were thinking.
Not recognizing it isn't free speech. That's Tourette's Syndrome.
#13 Posted by Truthteller, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:24 PM
Note that Joe Wilson is a retired ARNG colonel. All of his four sons are in government or the military. Which means his entire family receives Tricare, or VA, or other state- or federally funded health care.
#14 Posted by Daniel Luzer, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:24 PM
Nobody heckled Bush and Cheney at the State of the Union, Darlene. Did you even watch? I did. You're either misremembering, or you're making it up.
#15 Posted by Truthteller, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:26 PM
Although inappropriate, this emotional outburst is still free speech, something our members of Congress have lost due to pressures to bear from the Gestapo-like tactics of the Nancy Pelosi's and Joe Biden's of the world. Everyone else who disagreed with our President was biting their tongue. This Congressman, who should also be shown respect, just let his thoughts go.....get over it !
#16 Posted by Just a Republican, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:27 PM
that was very unprofessional and uncalled for.
#17 Posted by gail robinson, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:30 PM
DO LIBERALS LIVE IN REALITY?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/10/flashback_democrats_boo_bush_at_2005_state_of_the_union.html
#18 Posted by TEREALTRUTHTELLER, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:32 PM
You go Joe!!! We in the Upstate are with you!!!
#19 Posted by Joe Chapman, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:33 PM
The office of the President is so sacred that I guess it was stupid of me to believe that if the President decides to lie then we must accept it in deference to the office...BS Remember that guy who said "I did not have sex with that girl"???? I guess you never questioned his response to the public and you won't look up the facts about illegal immigrants getting a free ride since this bill does not require ID to get health care and Obama's plan will not allow anyone to ask that dirty little question or seek proof of US citizenship... Get a life and stop drinking that kool aid.
#20 Posted by socal, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:34 PM
The office of the President is so sacred that I guess it was stupid of me to believe that if the President decides to lie then we must accept it in deference to the office...BS Remember that guy who said "I did not have sex with that girl"???? I guess you never questioned his response to the public and you won't look up the facts about illegal immigrants getting a free ride since this bill does not require ID to get health care and Obama's plan will not allow anyone to ask that dirty little question or seek proof of US citizenship... Get a life and stop drinking that kool aid.
#21 Posted by socal, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:35 PM
Joe was out of line. He was very disrespectful and unprofessional and he should lose his job for it. I don't care if everyone one in this world agreed with him. There is a time a place for everything and that was not the place for a United States Representive to disrespect his commander-in-chief just because he disagreed with him. Other countries were watching the presidential address and we should not feed them anything that they can use to disgrace us. Joe Wilson should be fired and his apology was not sincere.
#22 Posted by Bridget Wise, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:35 PM
Free speech is meaningless, Just A Republican, if ungoverned by thought and propriety. Sure, you have a right to talk sexual aids at the Thanksgiving table at grandma's house, but you really shouldn't.
And you shouldn't heckle the President of Your United States fairly elected by Your Fellow Citizens on the floor of the Congress. We didn't. That's provably true, whatever Doreen or whatever her name is thinks.
#23 Posted by Walk It Back, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:35 PM
Very true Vonnie............these same liberals who demand respect for President Obama are more than likely the same ones I listened to at the opening of the new Nationals Park in D.C.back on 03/30/08 boo then President Bush
as he walked out to throw out the first pitch......they " Respect the Office" when its beneficial to them.
#24 Posted by Steve, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:35 PM
Joe was out of line. He was very disrespectful and unprofessional and he should lose his job for it. I don't care if everyone one in this world agreed with him. There is a time a place for everything and that was not the place for a United States Representive to disrespect his commander-in-chief just because he disagreed with him. Other countries were watching the presidential address and we should not feed them anything that they can use to disgrace us. Joe Wilson should be fired and his apology was not sincere.
#25 Posted by Bridget Wise, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:37 PM
Interesting! The whole family is supping at the public trough! And I bet the lot of them is guaranteed health care for life along with generous pension benefits! For this the citizens of his state on the bottom rung of the social ladder voluntarily believe his bleatings while they go begging for the simplest health care!
#26 Posted by Pauline Viverette, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:38 PM
RealClearPolitics is a GOP site. Get some real footage. Like the footage we have of the war crimes.
#27 Posted by You're Done Here, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:39 PM
Joe Wilson is a disgrace to himself, the Republican party, Congress, his constituents in South Carolina, as well as America in general. If, as a member of Congress, he can't keep his mouth shut during a presidential address to Congress (he says his emotions got the better of him...hmmmm) then I'd say he doesn't belong in the office! He should either resign, or better yet, hopefully he'll be thrown out of office by the voters in his district (if they know what's good for them)!
#28 Posted by John, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:43 PM
If you have never served in the military, then I suspect that you are unaware of what is offered as compensation for risking your life and commitinmg yourself to the defense of your country for over 20 years of your life. That's OK, the military understands that losers also have the right of free speach. However, when a person is not telling the truth, you also have the right to bring out the truth. When Joe said that the President had jusst told a lie, he was telling the truth. It may have been a stinky turd, but a turd is still a turd even if the President tells you it is a rose. Nuff said. I'm going to Joes' web site as soon as I can get on it and make a donation to him so he can keep telling the truth and defeat the next liberal liar who wants us to believe this garbage that those 12 million (plus) illegal aliens won't be given free health care and eventually their citizenship in order to swell the Democratic ranks.....
#29 Posted by socal, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:50 PM
The demnuts have memories as short as their attention spans & genitalia. They forget the 2005 state of the union address where not just one,buta large number of Dimocraps heckled & booed Gw Bush. He continued & ignored their derision, unlike Queen Nancy Botox,who looked as if someone was holding a small tird under her nose!
#30 Posted by warren, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:51 PM
One things for sure, the GOPeesters take the cake when it comes to bellowing. How about using this huge source of energy to come up with something that would benifit the whole instead of the same ole fear, terror, support the troops, and I almost forgot tax cuts for the upper 1%.
#31 Posted by Martin Schmaltz, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:52 PM
I am amazed that some persons here support such a blatant and total disrespect for a Head of State, simply because of Party affiliation. Politics is not to be played when an elected official of the United States disrespects the Office of The President. While I am no American, I am amazed at the lows to which your politics is sinking. Can you imagine someone shouting "Liar" at the Queen of England as she addresses the House of Commons? Totally unacceptable!
#32 Posted by International Viewer, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:52 PM
NO Joe Chapman. Not everyone in the upstate agrees...He is a loser and should leave with Sanford.
#33 Posted by mythoughts, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:52 PM
We (the American people) should be outraged at Obama for lying, not at Joe Wilson for yelling the truth!
#34 Posted by Darrel Kent, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:54 PM
Finally, my voice was heard in Congress! He said what I was screaming at the television.
Oh, by the way, the $414,000 pales in comparison to the $11.7 million received by the Prez from lawyers and law firms.
#35 Posted by P. Long, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:58 PM
Finally, my voice was heard in Congress! He said what I was screaming at the television.
Oh, by the way, the $414,000 pales in comparison to the $11.7 million received by the Prez from lawyers and law firms.
#36 Posted by P. Long, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 04:59 PM
One things for sure, the GOPeesters take the cake when it comes to bellowing. How about using this huge source of energy to come up with something that would benifit the whole instead of the same ole fear, terror, support the troops, and I almost forgot tax cuts for the upper 1%.
#37 Posted by Martin Schmaltz, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:00 PM
One things for sure, the GOPeesters take the cake when it comes to bellowing. How about using this huge source of energy to come up with something that would benifit the whole instead of the same ole fear, terror, support the troops, and I almost forgot tax cuts for the upper 1%.
#38 Posted by Martin Schmaltz, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:01 PM
OBTW...Did anyone hear the President screaming for tort reform last night? Could it be he receives filthy lucre from lawyers, as well as the unions?
#39 Posted by Socal, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:04 PM
OBTW...Did anyone hear the President screaming for tort reform last night? Could it be he receives filthy lucre from lawyers, as well as the unions?
#40 Posted by Socal, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:05 PM
"While I am no American, I am amazed at the lows to which your politics is sinking. Can you imagine someone shouting "Liar" at the Queen of England as she addresses the House of Commons? Totally unacceptable!"
Yeah, (sigh), I've been trying to tell these people for months that they are making us the laughingstock of the entire world, but they view that as a Good Thing, because foreigners are Bad Things and therefore logic dictates that if foreigners find something repulsive it must be a Good Thing.
"When Joe said that the President had jusst told a lie, he was telling the truth."
(sigh)
...it's like you guys are proud of being ignorant:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf
SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments
for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are
not lawfully present in the United States.
I guess taking Rush Limbaugh's word at face value is probably the second-best thing to actually reading the bill and thinking for yourself.
#41 Posted by Hardrada, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:06 PM
NO ONE. NOBODY disrespects our Commander in Chief!
A Vet
#42 Posted by A Vet, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:07 PM
I recall several liberal Democrates loudly booing George W Bush during one of his speeches all at the same time plus heckling him in the past during speeches.
These Dems didn't apologize afterwards. I smell a double standard here as usual.
By the way Representative Wilson was right .
#43 Posted by American, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:11 PM
While not the highpoint of decorum, I applaud Joe's retort to the POTUS during his most recent "infomercial " to congress. You merely allowed a heartfelt truth to eminate from your lips. One that I am sure many Americans wholeheartedly agree with. As the POTUS performed his slight of hand, subtly changing the number of uninsured from 47 to 30 million, the "in love with POTUS" media used his moment of honesty to discredit Joe. We will not be fooled as we have been in the past. The American people are paying attention and to be sure, many of us were saying the same to our Televisions. Here, Here! for his accidental bravery. Don't let them push him out while they leave the likes of Rangel, Frank and Dodd in place who have truly deceived the masses!
#44 Posted by shamed, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:14 PM
Joe Wilson is a confirmed hypocrite & liar.He continues to spread the lie that Sadaam Hussein had weapoons of mass destruction,although Bush II & others in his administation have recanted.There is nothing in any of the proposed legislation that will provide ins for illegals and he knows it.He just helped the Democrats pass the bill.What an imbecile.
#45 Posted by Veritas, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:15 PM
Joe Wilson is a confirmed hypocrite & liar.He continues to spread the lie that Sadaam Hussein had weapoons of mass destruction,although Bush II & others in his administation have recanted.There is nothing in any of the proposed legislation that will provide ins for illegals and he knows it.He just helped the Democrats pass the bill.What an imbecile.
#46 Posted by Veritas, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:16 PM
Even though his web site is down, you can still send him feedback on his campaign site: http://www.joewilsonforcongress.com
#47 Posted by charlie, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:21 PM
As a native South Carolinian -- I am ashamed. I supported W. both election cycles and was repulsed by the 'shoe-throwing' incident near the conclusion of his term. I supported President Obama as it was clearly time for change. I found the Joe incident equally if not more repulsive. More repulsive because while one might expect the lowly and abased expression of outrage as reflected by the specific Islamic reporter who threw his shoe at W., one should certainly expect far greater loftiness, respectability, aplomb and erudite expression of discourse from an elected US Congressman. Mr. Wilson reflects the downward trend in standards that is gaining greater velocity in public discourse. This great country of ours should be much further down the road of congenial and respectful divergence of views that leads to avenues of comity and mutuality of respect. As one native to the coastal regions of South Carolina, Joe's outburst, unfortunately, is not a stretch in the woods. There are prevailing diversity issues and conflicts in that part of the South that needs reconciling. As a retired military serviceman, Mr. Wilson should understand and reflect the codes of honor, respect, decency and the high standards of character that are the hallmarks of true servicemen. Wilson's conduct was not only reprehensible but apostate to the seat of the presidency; no matter what your level of divergence in views. Our tax dollars should not be used to harbor that kind of barbarism and, unfortunately, the Glen Beck's of the world continue to encourage and incite this type of indecency. Notwithstanding, Wilson is his own man. Not only was he unapologetic about his own obvious misrepresentation and fact-free communication (i.e. his 'lie' comment was based upon a lie- there is no support in the legislation about health care for illegal immigrants); but the apology he did offer was self-serving, and grounded in the fact he is facing a tough re-election challenge and spurred by his own party's dismay at his conduct. Even John McCain echoed the sentiment that Wilson's comments were inappropriate. Let's not split hairs- calling someone a liar and booing are two very different things. What Mr. Wilson did was public before the entire free world and a public apology is warranted. I am supporting his opponent in defeating Wilson's incumbency.
#48 Posted by D. Gene, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:25 PM
Even though his official web site is down, you can still send Joe feedback on his campaign site: http://www.joewilsonforcongress.com
#49 Posted by canderson, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:26 PM
So the Obama Haters want to believe and spread the "video proof" that Bush got booed in 2005...hey guys, the REASON there was no reaction to the "loud booing and heckling" was because it was obviously added to that video for the use of the GOP-driven website. I could post the same video with Simon Cowell judging Bush's singing performance and the Reps would eat it up as fact. And God forbid Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh point it out to them, they'd wanna add it to the frikkin' Bible!
#50 Posted by Basic Common Sense, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:26 PM
I love hearing the truth for a change. Obama is the biggest liar in history, except for Hitler and Tojo. GOOD FOR YOU JOE WILSON - SAY IT AGAIN FOR ME! OBAMA IS A LIAR, being the President does not excuse his behavior, in fact I prefer my President to be honest, upright, God loving and above all one who loves the USA. Dont think Obama is any of these things. Dr.T
#51 Posted by Dr.T, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:29 PM
there is a time and place for everything.......
that was a low blow joe!
#52 Posted by teopa, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:35 PM
disrespectful jackass....and he's in a position of LEADERSHIP???? JUDGEMENT? He can't control his EMOTIONS? What are we talking about here, a kindergartener?
#53 Posted by markos, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:39 PM
I'm a Republican, but this was a tipping point. We're just down to screaming and shaking our fists. I hope Obama knows what he's doing, because nobody on our side does.
I don't feel comfortable being told that the president of the opposing party isn't God-loving. Are you God, Dr. T? It would surprise me, because as Christians, we ourselves aren't supposed to judge other people's righteousness.
I hope someone starts a new party. The Republican party I loved is dead.
#54 Posted by Reaganite, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:48 PM
Shamed: "Here, Here! for his accidental bravery."
It's not "Here! Here!" It's "Hear, hear!", which actually means something.
Maybe your shame is over your lack of education.
#55 Posted by zuppa, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 05:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl897
Very noteworthy news piece from yahoo which typically supports or more conservative bent and much of the quotes are from conservatives. I believe Joe has sealed his fate... was it worth it? Looks like censure is in the works.
#56 Posted by D. Gene, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 06:06 PM
I just saw the 'Bush Booed/Heckled at State of the Union' video - our 'truth-tellers' posted. Where was he heckled? I hear frustration, I hear disagreement I don't hear the Man and the Office being insulted. I don't hear a member of the Congress acting like this is a Rush Limbaugh argument of who can scream louder.
The only outbursts I know of in the history of the US Congress that could be paralleled to such behavior goes back to the fistfights between Henry Clay and others opposed to abolishing slavery - and it took a country into a civil war with over 600k dead to resolve that.
I appears that seccesionist sentiment is rising again in South Carolina - it may mean if Conservatives do not get 'cooler heads' - that we AS AMERICANS have to resort to reestablishing a federal government in the same manner as the 1860s.
I hope I'm wrong - if the racism and frustration that the 'conservative' point of view has lost most of its power in the last 6 months - and it means that they have to carry guns to presidential visits, insult the leader of the free world in Congress - not for his point of view but accusing him of lying because he disagrees with their point of view. To call into question his character by calling him a Liar. The American Experiment may need to be reassessed. And we who believe in AMERICA are not going down without a fight!
Conservatives - you lost. Your point of view needs to be heard - not insulted but disagreed with. And you need to accept that change will occur from when conservatives were in power - because the majority has stated emphatically that not only in the executive but by overwhelming majority in the legislative branch that we are going a more 'Liberal' route than you would agree with.
But if you think that it is acceptable to go this more confrontational/fistfight kind of route - it is imperative that the majority stand up committed to violently thwart any usurption to the proper powers that our US Constitution gives us.
To sum it up - censure him. His district loses its votes and rights to debate until they come up with a replacement that will respect this US Constitution and the standards of US House decorum. (Before you all freak out - we already have hundreds of thousands of Americans with Taxation without Representation in the District of Columbia) I have no problem removing the rights of South Carolinians from being heard temporarily. And by the way that's the legal CONSTITUTIONAL way for Pelosi and a Democratic House to do this.
This is that big - this is not just an outburst - or a mistake - it borders on treason to do that in the Capitol - it disavows the commitments Wilson made when being sworn into the US House. Those hallowed halls are not the place for talk radio antics for those of us who believe in America and its constitution.
#57 Posted by Dave M, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 06:10 PM
some people need to spend time in prison to learn respect, that punk ass sissy biocth should be slapped...
#58 Posted by boxxman, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 06:55 PM
Joe Wilson just disrespected a whole nation and was so concerned with the issue at hand he spent the rest of the time on his Blackberry. Nice job loser and hopefully lose is what he will do if he tries to run again.
#59 Posted by Midwesterner, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 07:06 PM
What would have happened had a democrat yelled out at a State of the Union Address that George W. Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction. They would of had a public lynching. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Who will get the noose? We'll do this South
Carolina style.
#60 Posted by Bill Rook, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 10:09 PM
Joe Wilson was rude and was probably playing to his home base knowing full well that the president was not lieing, but merely omitting details not totally supporting a defense against his(Obama's)position on the subject matter. I do know if the pseudo-polite procedure on the house and the senate floors promotes constructive exchange, but I fail to see the harm in allowing members to voice their opinions thusly. It is noraml procedure in the British Parliment and surely is not a deterent to their productiviyt or lack of same. This is a tempest in a teapot and makes me long for Fred Friendly.
#61 Posted by M. Vincent Savage, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 10:25 PM
Joe Wilson was rude and was probably playing to his home base knowing full well that the president was not lieing, but merely omitting details not totally supporting a defense against his(Obama's)position on the subject matter. I do know if the pseudo-polite procedure on the house and the senate floors promotes constructive exchange, but I fail to see the harm in allowing members to voice their opinions thusly. It is normal procedure in the British Parliment and surely is not a deterent to their productiviyt or lack of same. This is a tempest in a teapot and makes me long for Fred Friendly.
#62 Posted by M. Vincent Savage, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 10:27 PM
President, tell me that it’s not true.
1.Tell me that it’s not true that we’re taking away Medicare benefits for healthcare coverage of illegal aliens.
2.Tell me that it’s not true that it is costing over 1.2 trillion to insure 10 million and still leaving over 30 million uninsured.
3.Tell me that it’s not true this plan will ration healthcare.
4.Tell me that it’s not true this plan does nothing to limit tort reform.
5.Tell me that it’s not true that my medical record will become a “secure” government record.
6.Tell me that it’s not true this plan does nothing to limit or reduce fraud and theft that is occurring with Medicare and Medicaid benefits.
7.Tell me that it’s not true that this coverage will be mandated for us and our Congressmen and Senators will still be covered on another healthcare plan.
8.Tell me that it’s not true that funding studies to limit healthcare coverage has already been funded with your previous Economic Recovery Plan.
9.Tell me that it’s not true that individuals over 70 will be mandated every five years to attend elderly training classes that include assisted suicide.
10.Tell me that it’s not true our system will not limit healthcare coverage like Canada and England.
11.Tell me that it’s not true that our government Medicaid coverage now costs 30 % more per life for coverage than private insurance coverage. How can any reasonable person believe this plan will reduce cost?
12.Tell me that it’s not true when private insurance goes away, our government Medicaid programs will increase over 20% due to lack of subsidies by private insurance.
13.Tell me that it’s not true our healthcare providers (Doctors, etc.) are being manhandled to support this healthcare proposal.
14.Tell me that it’s not true people from other countries (such as English and Canadian citizens) are seeking healthcare from our current healthcare system since it is far superior to government run healthcare in their respective country.
15.Tell me that it’s not true this healthcare plan will take away our patient-doctor relationship.
16.Tell me that it’s not true that your family will not participate in this plan.
#63 Posted by Jim, CJR on Thu 10 Sep 2009 at 11:20 PM
I am not God, nor do I pretend to be. However, a liar is a liar and I see no harm in saying it, in Congress or anywhere. If Obama lies, and he does, he should be called on it. Good for Joe Wilson!!. Nice piece Jim. I would post parts of the 494 pg. doc I read but you fearful,; gotta have Obama', people would not read it anyway. Dont come crying to we Independents when you get this horrible plan, we and some Dems & Repubs have tried to warn you. I will say God help us all IF this health plan is forced upon us. Mr. Baucus stop threatening us. Dr.T
#64 Posted by janice, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 08:07 AM
Marcos you did a great job of describing Obama. Vincent if you put your email address out I will send you exerps from the bill which prove Obama lies if even by omission which is almost worse than a straight lie which he is so good at doing. Since when does simply being President exclude one from being honest? It was not the Presidency that lied it was a person, named Obama, whose ego has gone beyond the Universe, he has to have his way and to hell with the rest of us. Talk about an unqualified peacock. Joe Wilson did the right thing and those in Congress trying to put him down are simply followers, not the leaders we need in all 3 aspects of our government. Dr.T
#65 Posted by DrT, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 08:22 AM
Joe Wilson just received a check for $2000.00 from me. Because he said what most clear-thinking Americans were thinking.
You REALLY think this new plan does NOT apply to illegal-immigrants? Really?
#66 Posted by Regardless, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 03:30 PM
Joe Wilson should be impeached. Right now! He is despicable and dis respectable.
No one should talk to any president that way. if we let this go and the next time a republican president speak we will all yell YOU LIE!
#67 Posted by Allen, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 07:07 PM
"Vincent if you put your email address out I will send you exerps from the bill which prove Obama lies if even by omission which is almost worse than a straight lie which he is so good at doing"
Post them here.
"You REALLY think this new plan does NOT apply to illegal-immigrants? Really?"
No, actually, I think you've been hoodwinked.
#68 Posted by Hardrada, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 07:33 PM
Joe Wilson needs to attend more anger management treatments and cut the liquor drinking and attend AA meetings. He is out of control and needs to resign or be impeached.
#69 Posted by Maureen, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 09:16 PM
I want to say thank you joe wilson for speaking your piece. That is whats wrong with people today they keep their tongue in their mouth and just let everything go on by. You know people are stupid. They will let anyone lead them by the nose and they would follow a snake in a hole. Keep up the good work joe. Good job. We need more people like you. Instead of a waz.
#70 Posted by bunny, CJR on Fri 11 Sep 2009 at 10:48 PM
You lie, bunny. The thing about this situation is that it is not you and I discussing politics over a cup of coffee - this is the President of the United States addressing the Congress of the United States, and I personally cannot think of a more formal setting. Joe Wilson has a right to think and say whatever he wants regarding healthcare reform, however misguided he might be due to freedom of speech, but this issue has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Joe Wilson does not have a right to interrupt a speech before Congress - nobody does. Joe Wilson lowered himself to the level of a heckler in the stands at a baseball game - and I fear the entire Republican party may be following down the same trail.
#71 Posted by Charles, CJR on Sat 12 Sep 2009 at 12:06 AM