Back, then, to the Post-Dispatch. The paper erred by calling the school to complain about its rogue commenter. But they also erred in creating an environment that encouraged rogue commenting in the first place. The invitation to name the exotic foods readers had eaten was a weak one—one that smacked of token rather than true engagement. (As Marshall writes, “The gift requests acknowledgment, but cannot demand return from anyone.”) The prompt wasn’t a gift so much as a command—“this is how we will interact today.” It wasn’t really an invitation to comment or interact in any meaningful way; the site offered nothing to indicate that anybody at the Post-Dispatch was reading or compiling the responses or otherwise planning to take them seriously.
The paper, in other words, offered no real sense of ownership of its comment sections, no sense that anybody was curating them or otherwise invested in their health. (Many of the responses noted that other Post-Dispatch articles were dominated by racist comments that nobody had seen fit to moderate or remove; by Greenbaum’s own admission, the “Talk of the Day” column had become the sort of feature where “every topic devolves into a partisan screed. Democrats and Republicans, conservatives and liberals — all roads lead to the same tired, boring arguments.”)
One week before the “female anatomy” incident, after soliciting suggestions on how to fix the “Talk of the Day” feature, Greenbaum told readers he was “going to be more ruthless about deleting comments that are off-topic and accomplish nothing more than lobbing flames into the marketplace of ideas.” Cybermind took a different approach toward putting out fires. From time to time, Marshall points out, Cybermind participants persisted in giving poisoned gifts—messages that were tonally or thematically inappropriate or otherwise disruptive. Although Cybermind was run by a man named Alan Sondheim, who had the power to unsubscribe any poster, in cases like these Sondheim inevitably subsumed his authority to that of the community. Sondheim gave the participant enough time to demonstrate to the community that he was acting in bad faith, and for the community to comment on the participant and come to some sort of consensus about him. Only then did Sondheim push the kill button.
To be sure, it’s important that Sondheim could push that button. Communities need to have people with that power, or else, as Clay Shirky has written, the community risks becoming its own worst enemy. But it’s also important that unilateral action wasn’t Sondheim’s first choice.
Many online social spaces take their orienting principles from real-world communities. They presume the existence of a sort of social contract that establishes normative community manners and behavior and punishes disjunctive behavior. But unlike in formal states, where the rules of society are codified and enforced by law, informal societies are less hierarchical. Marshall writes: “The term ‘social contract’ suggests that society is a voluntary and deliberate compact, that there is one social interest, and that society members agree to the power structures, to their ‘place’ and so forth . Most online ‘social contract’ is impermanent and continually renegotiable, involving variable parties and different levels of agreement. The difference between this kind of ‘contract’ and the agreements normally referred to by that term is too significant to ignore.”
It’s true. Online communities don’t generally resemble small towns so much as hobo jungles. Members pick up and leave without warning. New users arrive knowing and caring nothing about the community’s history. Participants have different levels of commitment to the community, and different ideas of what they expect to get in return for participating. Social contracts don’t work online because nobody is compelled, in any meaningful sense, to comply with them.

Man, this is pretty deep stuff for such a stupid mistake this Greenbaum guy did. Either way, he got what was coming. I notice just recently he crawled out from underneath his rock and quietly started working again after a two or so month on-line vacation. One other thing, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch has always weighed more on the left than in the middle.
#1 Posted by Steve, CJR on Fri 5 Mar 2010 at 06:25 PM
"The news outlet’s role is to 'sort all these competing perspectives and, for better or for worse, assert the dominant one.”'"
Really? That is why "journalism" is dying. It's stopped being journalism and has become advocacy.
Most of us who consume the news feel the news outlet's role is to "report the news." Stop trying to asset perspectives; if necessary, include and explain them (and give comparable weight to counter-perspectives), but report the facts.
Stop asserting. Start reporting. Or die.
#2 Posted by jeff d, CJR on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 01:15 PM
Is authority over community standards the issue? Or is it the right to enforce editorial standards?
Five years ago, my office was the work site for a consuling group that was advising the sponsors of a new think tank on issues of the northern plains about locations. My town was on the list because it is central, has higher education institutions, but is remote enough and small enough to offer a compatible environment for study and thought. When the decision was mae, the consultants had quite a list of the town's advantages. At the end of their presentation, they stunned us with the conclusion that the town would be an unsuitable place.
Their main reason was explained with comments from the local newspapers discussion board, comments which were abusive, insulting, and often just plain stupid. The consultants said that the kind of people who work in think tanks would not find an acceptable social environment in our town.
Immediately, the town promoters protested, saying the comments represented only a few individuals, not the attitudes of the community. The consultants said, wrong! The fact that a few people responded to the comments with other abusive and insuling comments rather than simply pointing out the scurrility indicated a community attitude that accepted that kind of discourse, and it indicates the level of thought, attitude, and discourse that is considered acceptable. They pointed out that discussion boards are dominated by people of this nature but that the community gives them assent.
I wonder what they would make of the Post Dispatch comments.
#3 Posted by Ann V, CJR on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 02:36 PM
Both guys in this story are jerks. I don't think any lessons can be drawn from it.
Newspaper web sites shouldn't let people hide behind anonymity for the same reasons newspapers don't let people hide behind anonymity. It just brings out the worst in people and hurts, not helps, society.
#4 Posted by Keith Roberts, CJR on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 04:42 PM
There is no Dominant Mind, as Jung proposed. There is a herd mentality which dominates every culture, It is an instinctive swarm response functioning at a survival level. We have developed multiple cultural expressions based on religious, racial, nationality, and economic differences since the internet has made it easy to give opinions a sense of reality by seeing them in print and having them debated regardless of whether or not they have any substantive value, discourse has degenerated to a personal attack on any opposing opinions. This as a herd response to fear, an emotion that spreads throughout the swarm causing mass flight and blind defense reactions.
Our government understands this and has used it to influence policies of benefit to special interests. The crowd seeks leadership and trusts government to preserve its safety. We are beginning to learn about the damage done to the people immobilized by a fear to think as individuals.
#5 Posted by Morton Kurzweil, CJR on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 05:49 PM
You suck ghd. If I had a voodoo doll with your name on it, I'd dip it's hair in furniture polish.
Then I'd give the dog a new chew toy.
#6 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 16 Apr 2010 at 10:07 PM