Few political donors have drawn greater scrutiny than the Koch brothers, the chemical manufacturing moguls whose lucrative support of conservative causes has made them poster children of how megadonors influence politics.
The ample coverage of the Koch brothers’ activities got a boost last week with one of its most exhaustive entries to date: a new report entitled “The Koch Club,” by Charles Lewis and the Investigative Reporting Workshop. Lewis and his colleagues reviewed five years of political and charitable donations by the Kochs, Koch Industries and the wide network of related foundations and charities that critics have dubbed the “Kochtopus.” Their most striking finding is not the quantity of spending—$134 million is hardly chump change, but megadonor Sheldon Adelson spent about $100 million in 2012 alone—but the way the money was targeted.
The vast majority of the Kochs’ political spending was not sent directly to political parties or candidates, found Lewis and his colleagues, but instead toward nonprofits, lobbying and universities. The discrepancy is striking: only $8.7 million went directly to political parties and candidates, while $53.9 million went to lobbying, $41.2 million to nonprofit organizations and an annual libertarian conference, and $30.5 million to US colleges and universities. Combined, the Kochs spent more than $14 on lobbying, nonprofits and education for every $1 they gave directly to politicians.
Of course, its hardly breaking news that the world of campaign finance has been upended in recent years, with its center of gravity shifting away from political candidates and parties. But the overwhelming preponderance of donations to nontraditional sources by two of the country’s most sophisticated political donors sends a clear signal that journalists—and good government watchers—would do well to note.
Perhaps the most crucial lesson of “The Koch Club” is this: that its authors’ painstaking work of untangling complex donation structures is becoming a bread and butter element of money in politics reporting, along with tracking contributions to candidates. The Koch brothers’ vast wealth does not make them outliers: as an eye-opening report by the Sunlight Foundation found last week, fully 28% of disclosed political contributions in 2012 came from elite donors who constitute “the 1% of the 1%” of contributors. While other megadonors may lack the Kochs’ wide infrastructure and desire for secrecy, a number of them are likely to start catching up.
To make matters even more daunting, both the Sunlight Foundation and “The Koch Club” note that a significant part of the money directed toward nonprofits is “dark money” that can hardly be tracked through public disclosures. “The Koch Club” cites news reports that the Kochs are currently setting up two new nonprofit groups whose 501(c)6 tax status will allow them escape disclosure requirements almost entirely.
For campaign finance reporters, this may be the most enduring and under-recognized legacy of Citizens United, related court decisions, and the ongoing financing shift away from political parties and candidates. It’s not just that individuals can spend more, but, increasingly, that Herculean efforts like the Investigative Reporting Workshop’s two-year-long Koch investigation are necessary to determine where their money is going.
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Notice the lack of irony when reporting that two Soros funded attack dogs. the Sunlight Foundation and Investigative Reporting Workshop, are on a dirt digging exercises against the Kochs. Maybe it shouldn't be that surprising considering Soros sends checks to CJR as well.
#1 Posted by Mike H, CJR on Mon 8 Jul 2013 at 11:47 AM
What is the dollar value of the work of The New York Times Corporation or the Corporation for Public Broadcasting or any other media corporation's assistance to political figures and causes, and should it be regulated? All 'Citizens United' said is that the Koch Brothers have the same free-speech rights as does A.O. Sulzberger. Add to that, public spending to make incumbent politicians look good makes the moneys expended by the Koch Brothers and others look puny.
Spending on 'conservative causes' is a phony issue. There is a definite political agenda behind it. Private money is a counter-weight to the authority of the state, and is healthy. CJR should be calling out phonies in the media who already have megaphones and don't like 'outsiders' muscling in. Paul Krugman, sponsored by a corporation, has far more voice in public policy than the Koch's. So, is that 'democratic'?
#2 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Mon 8 Jul 2013 at 03:50 PM
Ya know, if we're going to go with the argument that money == speech and just let people 'talk', then wouldn't it behoove the listeners to know a bit about who is doing the talking?
Especially when what they're saying isn't in the interests of the people, nor the subscribers of the people's magazine, nor the study of objective reality in ways to produce a greater understanding of ourselves and the world around us.
Their speech is in the service of a chemical company, inherited wealth, and the good ol' days of feudalism - when a lord could really be a lord.
Well okay. Their speech should be easy to evaluate then because they're saying it, right? Except no. They aren't the ones saying it, they're paying other people to say it. They're paying institutions like universities to say it.
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/under_the_influence_of_koch.php#comment-42750
Hell, they invite supreme court justices to say it. And they're also paying to silence it.
Money == speech.
So in this environment, disclosure is essential. After all:
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/a_soros_problem_at_npr.php#comment-43543
'Are people on Roger Ailes's payroll - or that of Charles Koch, for that matter - really going to produce those 10-part series' that contradict the editorial advice of the guy who signs their checks?'
What have you got against disclosure, especially since you guys love to use disclosure to taint every contribution made by an enemy?
What have you got against disclosure, especially given the history that your donors are not the type of philanthropists who give without strings?
Shouldn't the people know about who's talking to them?
#3 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 9 Jul 2013 at 02:12 PM
What have you got against disclosure, especially given the history that your donors are not the type of philanthropists who give without strings?
Good point ... take a look at Propublica's thorough reporting on the subprime crisis. A series so complete and intricate you'd be excused to miss any mention of Golden West Financial role in the subprime crisis or the collapse of Wachovia. A glaring oversight until you recall that Propublica was started with a multimillion dollar grant from Herb and Marion Sandler, the founders of Golden West Financial.
Aint consistency a bitch.
#4 Posted by Mike H, CJR on Tue 9 Jul 2013 at 02:50 PM
*Bang*
Oh. Oh. You got me Mark. I can see the angels above, lord have mercy, because your rhetorical bullet, fired from a rifle named 'consistency', has left me mortally wounded.
Pray for my soul, all you good people, for now is the time I must meet my maker and, if MikeH has his way, she'll be a bitch.
*Thud*
Get the **** over yourself.
The Golden West stuff was reported here:
http://www.cjr.org/feature/the_education_of_herb_and_marion.php?page=all
and we have voiced concerns about "a central fear about foundation-funded journalism: that a news organization would feel indebted to the sponsors of its work" in regards to the Sandlers.
The fact of the matter is the quality of the work done by Propublica does not show a distortion reportage due to the ethical conflicts and ideology of their contributors. In fact, if you use the google well enough, you can find mentions of Golden West Financial's role in Propublica's reporting:
http://www.propublica.org/article/wells-fargo-picks-to-pay
as well as 18,000 comments asking "Why doesn't propublica report anything about Golden West Financial, HUH?! HUH!?" stated my MikeH.
And, because Mike's a little stupid, he proves my point! That disclosure of what PorPublica's funders and founders did before propublica is very germaine to the question of how their contributions have affected propublica's work.
We can examine, criticize, raise possible ethical conflicts, evaluate whether or not the work is reflective of fact or the ideology of the founders, be more informed about what's being said by learning more about the folks providing the speaking fees.
I welcome disclosures about Soros, the Sandlers, etc.. and I want to know whether their contributions are affecting a venture's content in a way that detracts from the venture's objectivity. If you can prove that the philanthropic contributions are corrupting the work, present your evidence and make your case; I invite you.
#5 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 9 Jul 2013 at 11:54 PM
But what right wing morons do is they take a work and use a fact like "it was funded by Soros" to dismiss the work, which is kinda like a conservative saying "E=mc2? Yeah, according to SOROS."
And then they go consume some Fox News and CATO, where content is really driven by top down political message:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/koch-brothers-cato-institute-takeover-irs_n_1368045.html
Yeah Mike, consistency is a bitch, but how would you know? It appears you've never met her.
#6 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 12:02 AM
Well, that sucked.
My above comments could have used a proofread, but my SO wanted me to, in her words, "Put on the G.D. movie!"
Please excuse the sloppy posts. I hate having to rush.
#7 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 02:24 AM
Thimbles, since you are a fan of 'diisclosure', isn't it appropriae for you to post under your real name? Your points about disclosure should apply to anyone engaged in political speech, shouldn't they? I also would like journalists, who work for 'media' corporations, to disclose their political histories - since they use scarce resources to try to influence public opinion in a corporate setting.
#8 Posted by Mark Richard, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 12:26 PM
It embarrasses me that CJR has fallen this far from journalism into blatant, Soros-funded propaganda. The decline of American journalism into agitprop is mirrored by publications such as this one.
#9 Posted by Dan Gainor, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 01:39 PM
"Thimbles, since you are a fan of 'diisclosure', isn't it appropriae for you to post under your real name?"
I already told you who I am.
http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/heartland_gleick_and_media_law.php#comment-58069
"I also would like journalists, who work for 'media' corporations, to disclose their political histories - since they use scarce resources to try to influence public opinion in a corporate setting."
And I would like that too. People should know the background of folks like Jonathan Karl:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/W_Meets_The_Gobshites
#10 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 03:43 PM
Oh wait You weren't talking about people like that. You were talking about people getting fired for signing petitions or for speaking on a subject in a way you don't like in their free time.
http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/rethinking_objectivity_a_wisco.php
See, I wouldn't have a problem with "background checks" if McCarthyesque folks like you, Dan Gainor, and the Kochs didn't use this stuff to ratf*ck everyone who offends their precious feelings.
In a meritocracy, the work should be a measure of a person. If the work doesn't measure up, the background may indicate the reasons why.
But If the work does measure up, the only reason why you'd be interested in the personal background is because you want to weaponize it.
You want to be the only side allowed to use vitriol and take controversial stands since your side doesn't care about civility and comity. Our side elevates civility and comity as qualities reflective of objectivity, which is dumb on its part, therefore you want to hold our side accountable to those standards. You want to persecute based on style, belief, and personal expression - not based on the quality of the work.
You want to hold us up to standards you don't hold for yourselves.
Fine. Demand to know our background and our relationships with the people who fund us, question our biases and the preferences we show in our work to placate our contributors, make us divulge.
And then STFU when we ask the same of you and folks like the Koch brothers.
You whining a-holes.
#11 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 04:13 PM
Oh, and since you brought it up:
"What is the dollar value of the work of The New York Times Corporation or the Corporation for Public Broadcasting or any other media corporation's assistance to political figures and causes, and should it be regulated?"
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/05/27/130527fa_fact_mayer
"Last fall, Alex Gibney, a documentary filmmaker who won an Academy Award in 2008 for an exposé of torture at a U.S. military base in Afghanistan, completed a film called “Park Avenue: Money, Power and the American Dream.” It was scheduled to air on PBS on November 12th...
A large part of the film, however, subjects the Kochs to tough scrutiny. “Nobody’s money talks louder than David Koch’s,” the narrator, Gibney, says, describing him as a “right-wing oil tycoon” whose company had to pay what was then “the largest civil penalty in the E.P.A.’s history” for its role in more than thirty oil spills in 2000...
That Friday, Shapiro initially said, he called Koch at his office and told him that the Gibney film “was going to be controversial,” noting, “You’re going to be a big part of this thing.” Shapiro offered to show him the trailer, and added that he hoped to arrange “some sort of on-air roundtable discussion of it, to provide other points of view.” ...
Shapiro acknowledges that his call to Koch was unusual. Although many prominent New Yorkers are portrayed in “Park Avenue,” he said that he “only just called David Koch. He’s on our board. He’s the biggest main character. No one else, just David Koch. Because he’s a trustee. It’s a courtesy.”
In fact, according to a well-informed source, WNET was about to embark on an ambitious capital campaign, and before Gibney’s film aired Koch had been planning to make a very large gift. “It was going to be a seven-figure donation—maybe more,” the source said. Shapiro denies that Koch’s patronage was a motive for his phone call...
In the end, the various attempts to assuage David Koch were apparently insufficient. On Thursday, May 16th, WNET’s board of directors quietly accepted his resignation. It was the result, an insider said, of his unwillingness to back a media organization that had so unsparingly covered its sponsor."
:/
Oh yeah, that report was done by Jane Mayer, the reporter who had Tucker Carlson's dogs sicced on her after her first report on the Kochs.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/smear_disappears_Xs7WqA7cghZ3IWtmyDg7rO
Makes me all wonder who funds the Daily Caller and Tucker Carlson?
#12 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 08:02 PM
It's almost insulting to the readers to see this article presented as journalism. We know that CJR and the IRW are funded by Soros. We know that neither organization objects in principle to rich people partnering with the media and developing a university presence, because the IRW is a Soros media partnership that resides in a university. This is just the same old left-right fight, and dressing it up as journalism is unprofessional.
#13 Posted by Tom T., CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 09:14 PM
And another thing: It's 2013. Well-run media outlets manage their comments sections. We know CJR could keep their comments substantive if they wanted to; heck, they investigated one commenter who criticized them too often. This means that CJR is apparently happy to have a faux-schizophrenic comment-spamming troll try to shut down criticism, or indeed any kind of continuing dialogue. That's bush league, and it makes CJR look like such amateurs.
#14 Posted by Tom T., CJR on Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 09:24 PM
It's run by Charles Friggin Lewis morons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lewis_(journalist)
Old time player. Broke the whole "Clinton renting out the Lincoln Bedroom" deal. Practically invented independent reporting.
The university partnership model being used here is simliar to the one Scott Walker tried to kill in Wisconsin:
http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/how_wisconsins_watchdogs_kept_their_home_scott_walker_vetoes_legislative_proposal.php#comment-78603
So please, know something first and then talk. And for god's sake stop using "SOOOOOROOOOOS!" as your argument.
You can't have communities of koch level people pouring money on your heads and then cry "SOOROOSOO!" like it's the antichrist kicking your dog.
This is one story about the Kochs. How many stories, made up and otherwise, do you right wingers traffic daily about "SOOOOOROOOOSSSUUUU!"?
You're a bunch of nasty wet diapered babies.
"This means that CJR is apparently happy to have a faux-schizophrenic comment-spamming troll try to shut down criticism, or indeed any kind of continuing dialogue."
Translation - "WAAAAAH! The lefty *sniff* hits me back. WAAAAH!"
Pathetic.
#15 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 11 Jul 2013 at 12:34 AM
I shouldn't bother, but I decided to anyways, since people have accused me of trying to shut down criticism, or indeed any kind of continuing dialogue.
(Never mind the fact that these idiots are the ones changing the topic from the subject of the piece, the Cochs, and making it about "SOROS!" because, hey, hese people are good at never minding facts.)
A lot of people have been throwing around the accusation "SOROS!" because that word alone somehow means something in someone's pretendland.
So I decided to do a little investigation.
I mean if you're going to say "that two Soros funded attack dogs. the Sunlight Foundation and Investigative Reporting Workshop, are on a dirt digging exercises against the Kochs" you should have some proof that they both are funded by the Kocks.
But you know, I can't seem to find any links to any information about the evil "SOROS" and his Open Society Institute hordes funding them.
http://investigativereportingworkshop.org/about/
Help me out here. The only link I can find between SOROS and IRW was made, by Heartland Climate Expert and Psychotic SOROS Conspiracy Junkie, Danny Gainor. He showed up in this thread didn't he?
"It embarrasses me that CJR has fallen this far from journalism into blatant, Soros-funded propaganda. The decline of American journalism into agitprop is mirrored by publications such as this one."
So, the type of work that was done on the Cocks is bad, right?
But this kind of stuff:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/18/soros-spending-48-million-funding-media-organizations/
is goooooooood.
I see.
Anyways, the big link that Bozwell's flying monkey makes (after using CJR's "News Frontier Database" tool to slander a bunch of groups as being "SOROS!") is that the Investigative Reporting Workshop is a member of the Investigative News Network and the INN is funded by "SOOROOOOOOS!"
Therefore, by the associative principle, the IRW is "SOROS!"
Am I wrong? Is the evidence you got for the IRW's SOROS funding just a club membership? If so, you haven't even proved the INN gave money to the IRW.
You can't make accusations of "SOROS funded attack dogs" using 'Seven degrees of Kevin Bacon' rules.
Give me something here.
#16 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 11 Jul 2013 at 03:02 AM
Anyone remember what happened last time these flying monkeys found a SOROS banana and ran with it?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/14/us-wallstreet-protests-funding-idUSTRE79D01Q20111014
And remember, these guys were all villainizing people for taking SOROS money while on the payroll of the Kochs and their buddies.
Entirely incapable of self awareness.
#17 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 11 Jul 2013 at 03:43 AM
I see the corrupt, incompetent bomb thrower Thimbles is out of the asylum. Go back to your basement, coward. Grow a pair and own up to what media outlet you really represent. Then we'll see how brave you are.
Coward.
#18 Posted by Dan Gainor, CJR on Thu 11 Jul 2013 at 05:43 PM
Thimbles: "Am I wrong? Is the evidence you got for the IRW's SOROS funding just a club membership? If so, you haven't even proved the INN gave money to the IRW.
You can't make accusations of "SOROS funded attack dogs" using 'Seven degrees of Kevin Bacon' rules.
Give me something here."
Heartland Climate Expert and Part Time Flying Monkey: 'I got nothing except ... you're a big mean coward!'
Thimbles: "I thought so."
PS. You should know who I represent:
www.thimbles.com
Don't mess with us. We are legion.
#19 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Thu 11 Jul 2013 at 07:57 PM
Ah, more gibberish from Thimbles.
I laugh when CJR, funded directly by George Soros, has the audacity to attack conservative funders.
I also laugh when cowardly liberal sock puppets come out of the woodwork to defend such BS.
#20 Posted by Dan Gainor, CJR on Fri 12 Jul 2013 at 05:56 AM
"I laugh when CJR, funded directly by George Soros,"
And Citigroup and Goldman Sachs and the Rockefellers...
and they disclose all of that when reporting on them, often reporting critically:
http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/how_cjr_breaks_bread.php
Moron.
"has the audacity to attack conservative funders."
Is too laugh.
https://www.google.com/search?q=gainor+soros
Who funds you, Danny boy, and what makes you
obsessiveparanoiddifferent?And by that question, I'm not refering to you being an obsessive, paranoid, flying monkey for billionaires and not a journalist. Trust me, we all know and appreciate those differences.
#21 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 12 Jul 2013 at 03:51 PM
Meanwhile, are you thirsty for "economic freedom"? If so, why don't you drink some Kochka Kola:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/07/10/2280101/charles-koch-minimum-wage/
Because life was so good when labor was 'mobile' enough to move from sweatshop to sweatshop, up until the Great Depression.
Minor snag.
And then life was sooo terrible under the New Deal when tax rates on marginal income for people like Koch were to 90 percent and America built highways and sent people to the moon.
Tyranny.
Of course Koch's message is stupid on its face, but he's got 2,000,000 pennies in his pocket to shout it with.
Whereas the truth has a link on a blog:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/want-to-boost-power-of-wages-over.html
The fact of the matter is that wages are falling and, when wages fall, so does demand. When demand falls, so do wages.
#22 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 12 Jul 2013 at 04:53 PM
We used to know this stuff after the Great Depression:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_great_divergence/features/2010/the_united_states_of_inequality/introducing_the_great_divergence.html
but it's gotten forgotten in our age - The Great Derpression.
And a lot of credit for that has to go to monkeys like Dan Gainor who are inclined to sell out all life on earth if it gets them a 5 figure income.
http://www.cjr.org/feature/sticking_with_the_truth.php#comment-77899
#23 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 12 Jul 2013 at 05:01 PM
Who needs spam when we have the corrupt and cowardly Thimbles bombarding every thread with mountains of useless data?
I wonder what news org he is stealing that time from. Or is he just another lefty astroturfer?
#24 Posted by Dan Gainor, CJR on Fri 12 Jul 2013 at 06:49 PM
How's that big expose, showing how Charles Lewis's Investigative Reporting Workshop is in cahoots with "SOOROOOS!", coming?
Any day now?
I know who funds Dan Gainor's employers:
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/polluterwatch/koch-industries/
$55 grand for Heartland and $15 grand for the MRC.
But we're not supposed to imply he's bought property, so I won't.
#25 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Fri 12 Jul 2013 at 09:23 PM
Thimbles
I work for a nonprofit. I'm public and honest about who I am.
Try it.
The truth shall set you free...
As for funding, I wish people who agreed with us sent us a lot more money. Monitoring lefty media is a big challenge.
D
#26 Posted by Dan Gainor, CJR on Sat 13 Jul 2013 at 03:19 PM
You "monitor the lefty media" like Dan Brown monitors the Catholic Church.
And those who agree with you spend a lot more money than the George SOOROROS!
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/01/koch_brothers_donated_big_to_alec_heartland_institute/
And they don't just spend it on 'lefty press'. ALEC, the guys who were coining the gun and abortion laws for the states? Koch.
Meracutus, featured on this very site for its frequent calling upon for congressional testimony despite the quality of its parent organization?
"According to a 2009 ranking of 31 economics programs at U.S. universities by U.S. News and World Report, Harvard University ranked No. 1. George Mason didn't place."
Koch money.
You worry about Soros influencing the media by handing out a few checks to NPR?
The Kochs just did a hostile takeover of CATO, now they're eyeing the LA Times.
The Kochs just bent pbs in circles over the unfriendly coverage of one program because they are major funders of it.
The Kochs paid money to supreme court justices, Scalia and Thomas, to attend and speak at their Palm Springs Federalist Society function. Hell, Clarence Thomas's wife ran the 501(c)(4) tea party group, "Liberty Central", with Koch people and it was the Koch people who assumed control when Ginni ran into trouble with people questioning ethical conflicts.
(having an 'anti Obamacare' organization, led by the wife of a supreme court judge, who was soliciting corporate donations, raises the old eyebrows (that and the drunk dialling of Anita Hill))
These are people who are buying think tanks (to advocate 'kick the poors' policy), buying legislative chop shops (to hand over cookie cut bills to state congresses), buying and incubating judiciaires (if you're a 'radical originalist', not a 'judicial activist', you're invited to the best parties), buying university departments (to provide the academic foundation for national looting), and buying politicians (so they can call up Scott walker on a moment's notice and give your political representation their marching orders).
And you spend your time monitoring npr and a bunch of non-profit journalism outfits... when you're not called upon to give public testimony on "climate conspiracies" as the Polar Seas melt.
You want more money for that. Because doing your job is such a big challenge.
/:/
#27 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Sat 13 Jul 2013 at 06:13 PM
Hell, you know what the sad thing is? Koch money buys a considerable amount of the 'left' and the right:
http://prospect.org/article/how-dlc-does-it
"And for $25,000, 28 giant companies found their way onto the DLC's executive council, including Aetna, AT&T, American Airlines, AIG, BellSouth, Chevron, DuPont, Enron, IBM, Merck and Company, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Texaco, and Verizon Communications. Few, if any, of these corporations would be seen as leaning Democratic, of course, but here and there are some real surprises. One member of the DLC's executive council is none other than Koch Industries, the privately held, Kansas-based oil company whose namesake family members are avatars of the far right, having helped to found archconservative institutions like the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy. Not only that, but two Koch executives, Richard Fink and Robert P. Hall III, are listed as members of the board of trustees and the event committee, respectively--meaning that they gave significantly more than $25,000."
So the Koch money has basically either bought possible Koch opposition or swarmed it with other Koch institutional allies.
Don't talk to me about Soros money. Koch is it.
And what is Koch money buying for itself?
http://thinkprogress.org/report/koch-oil-speculation/
#28 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Sat 13 Jul 2013 at 06:32 PM
Let's see... we have a TV personality spewing ad hominems on the one hand, and, on the other, a "cowardly liberal sock puppet" who provides substantive responses.
Gee, I wonder who appears more credible.
Dan Gainor, you've been pwned.
#29 Posted by FreeThinker, CJR on Tue 16 Jul 2013 at 12:57 PM