Still no clear answer from Sebelius, who responded that there were basically five different plans in Congress. There was more “good news,” she said. “This Congress and this president are committed to paying for this over time.”

And so went the interview.

Takeaway Number One: The administration apparently is not ready to tell the American people exactly what it supports and how reform should be paid for.

Takeaway Number Two: Reporters can do a good job of questioning the pols.

Takeaway Number Three: Gregory’s hard-hitting approach shows how it can be done.

Trudy Lieberman is a fellow at the Center for Advancing Health and a longtime contributing editor to the Columbia Journalism Review. She is the lead writer for The Second Opinion, CJR’s healthcare desk, which is part of our United States Project on the coverage of politics and policy. Follow her on Twitter @Trudy_Lieberman.