Welcome back to America, I said to myself after a two-week trip to France. Yes, I did think about health care while I was away—all that rhetoric about the U.S. and its “best” health care in the world, and the French and their “socialistic” system. Traveling abroad always brings up the medical what-ifs—an accident, a sudden illness, the need for a doctor in the middle of the night. In France, though, I was hardly worried. Patient satisfaction with medical care here is among the highest of any western European country. The French have a higher life expectancy, lower infant mortality, and lower costs than we do. In 2000, the World Health Organization ranked the French system the best in the world. The U.S. ranked thirty-seventh.
I have experienced the German and British health care systems on other vacations for trifling ailments that were quickly cured. I didn’t think France would be different. “Don’t worry,” said a German doctor when I presented my Blue Cross card to him thirty-five years ago. “You can’t pay here. The most important thing is that you are well enough to go out and enjoy Oktoberfest.” I never got a bill. Making sure a foreigner got well seemed to be more important than collecting money. In England, I sat on an exam table silently rehearsing all the consumer questions I had to ask the British doctor. Should I tell her to wash her hands? She did that as a matter of course. Should I ask her to read the antibiotic prescription to me so I could tell the pharmacist to give me the right drug? Should I ask about side effects? She handed me a computerized form answering all my questions—no illegible doctor’s scribbles here. Go down the hall to the pharmacy and get this filled, she said. I paid about $12. All this took about an hour, wait and all. I never got a bill.
Luckily, this time I didn’t need health care, but lots of people I met wanted to talk about it. An American journalist who has spent most of his career in France said he and his wife were not interested in moving back to the U.S. largely because of health care. In fact, he didn’t even sign up for Medicare when he became eligible. Some Brits we met at breakfast one morning had trouble comprehending what they considered the silliness of the current debate. The tone of the discourse in the States was unthinkable to them. They talked of their own costly medical experiences while visiting Chicago. They had learned that the first thing American doctors and hospitals ask is whether you can pay, not how they can fix what’s wrong.
France—the land of some of the best pre-and post-natal care in the world! Making sure that babies and children are well cared for, medically speaking, is a tradition dating to the time when the French government wanted to make sure babies grew up to be healthy soldiers. Necessity turned into good public health policy. One thing stood out as I watched families interact with their children and kids playing in the town squares: The kids were not obese, fat, or even slightly chubby. That’s an observation, of course, not a scientifically proven fact. Nevertheless, the comparison with a group of American kids playing in a park was striking. In the U.S., one in three children born in 2000 will develop diabetes during his or her life—a disease linked to obesity, now considered an American epidemic. Although cola creep (bottles of soda getting bigger) was noticeable on this trip, I didn’t see kids or (adults, for that matter) walking down the street carrying venti caramel macchiatos loaded with useless calories.
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Over the weekend on C-SPAN I saw a group of Congressmen who were also Doctors claim that in the name of avoiding Socialism they were avoiding all the health plans of all the western countries in order to come up with a plan that as far as I can tell is completely unduplicated anywhere. What kind of Doctors ignore all the currently used treatments and pull their own, untested treatment out of a hat?
#1 Posted by Bob Gardner, CJR on Mon 13 Jul 2009 at 01:13 PM
Trudy, thank you for an excellent article. I am appalled at how mercenary the US health care system has become. Now, as Americans are virtually unanimous in demanding affordable healthcare, the politicians tell us that - NO- all we want is another insurance program that is required by law to charge as much and cover as little as the ones that are killing so many people unnecessarily.
Sausage factory is right.
A pox on both of their houses.
Someday we will look back at this period and see it and them for what it is, a barbaric one, and they are the worst of the barbarians.
#2 Posted by Lincoln, CJR on Mon 13 Jul 2009 at 02:40 PM
There's no question that the "socialistic" health care systems found in several other countries are perfectly adequate and can achieve higher levels of general satisfaction, and equivalent levels of care, than ours, at a lower cost. The apocalyptic protests being heard in America are pure hot air.
But adopting a French, British, German, or Canadian system wouldn't cure all ills. In particular, I doubt that the lesser obesity observed in France has much to do with their health care system.
#3 Posted by D. B., CJR on Mon 13 Jul 2009 at 04:16 PM
what is achieved by a national policy that says health care is a private enterprise will providing billions upon billions of subsidies to health care businesses and providers
#4 Posted by jamzo, CJR on Tue 14 Jul 2009 at 10:11 AM
About 2 years ago I was working on a project just outside of Ottawa when I cut my hand in an industrial accident. No biggie I figured, it was bleeding pretty bad and I think I hit a tendon, but we were able to get the bleeding under control with some compression and I figured it might take about 15 stitches to close it.
When brought into the ER (it being Monday the local clinic was closed for budgetary reasons), I waited nearly 3 hours just to see a nurse. She then told me she could do nothing more for me, as I wasn’t Canadian and It wasn’t “life threatening”, until I ponied up a credit card as a deposit for care. I asked her what would happen if I didn’t have anything and she told me that I would be refused treatment so I whipped out my Visa. After paying for the “free” service I had to wait an additional 5 hours to see the doctor. A quick 18 stitches later he was done. I asked about connective tissue damage and he told me “it looked OK” and to take some aspirin or ibuprofen. My bill came to $1800.
When I got back home the following Thursday, I saw my GP the next day without an appointment. My GP also noticed I was running a low fever and suspected the wound was infected, so he lanced it, drained the pus and put me on a heavy dose of antibiotics. He was also concerned about some tendon damages he got me over to an orthopedic the same day who had me scheduled for an MRI the next morning. He called that following Monday, as a radiologist looked at my MR results that weekend, and asked me if I could be scheduled that week for some minor hand surgery to repair the tendons. He later informed me that this should have been done “immediately” and that I would need several more weeks of additional hand therapy because of the additional scarring caused by the delay.
Sure, the “private” American health care system is expensive, but you get results. And yes the Canadian system and all government run health care systems are “free”, but you better pray to God you don’t need to use them.
#5 Posted by mike h, CJR on Tue 14 Jul 2009 at 01:22 PM
The French have often been a-head of the pack when it comes to social concern for their fellow citizens. Today is Bastille Day. Let us remember the sacrifices made by those who played an important role in that earlier French social experiment. Here in the USA, in this current day of the disparate distribution of wealth and the resulting deficiencies in social services, should remember the considerable contributions made by those Frenchmen who stood a-head of their fellow citizens; St. Just, Robespierre, Danton and Marat. They gave of them selves so the French could be free. At least for a short while.
#6 Posted by Jack, CJR on Tue 14 Jul 2009 at 04:38 PM
I have seen the cost satistics befoe and have been able to find backup data on it so I do believe these real. I suggest a few reasons:
France has no malpractice lawsuits.......you all willing to give that up.
France decides how much doctors are paid.
France pays for medical schooling. I wonder if that is in the cost.
In looking at our own goverment, many departments overlap. It is hard to determine an actual adminstration cost. As socialist as France is I am sure it is even worse.
France is slimmer which reduce cost. I wonder how they can take credit for that? Is it because of goverment control? Maybe people can't afford to eat because of all the taxes they have to pay? Now there is an idea.
I would like to know where to find those satistics on life expectancy and child birth. If it is from the WHO then I don't know how much faith to put into them. They are made up of mostly socialist organization that don't like us Americans much. We have had the ability to create wealth and they hate that. Instead of bringing us done they should follow China's example of builiding wealth....get the goverment out of the private sector.
#7 Posted by JCS, CJR on Wed 15 Jul 2009 at 09:35 PM
I realize this is an old post, but just to counter the silly scare tactics and lies. You are not getting the most state of the art treatments at all! I am american, have american parents who are a doctor and a nurse and have unfortunately, had to use that system. After being diagnosed with a bone disease that in the US, a conservative early treatment that uses stem cells derrived from the patients own bone marrow to heal the diseased bone and prevent repeated total hip replacements-multiple ones since I am in my twenties- is considered 'experimental', not covered by most insurance and US doctors don't have a great deal of experience with it or even knowledge of it. I went to France b/c the out of pocket costs of just paying out right were less than US copays even if my insurance would pay and way less than I would have needed to pay out of pocket. And, I got it done by the inventor of the technique and one of the world experts on the disease.
France, unlike the US, considers this treatment standard (not experimental) and it is available to all.
I received more sophisticated, technologically advanced care than I would get in the US. US surgeons were in awe of simple things that were available and done during my surgery in France that are not available or widely used in the US due to cost. I received the more expensive medication options because the surgeon thought they were better and didn't need to check with anyone other than medical experts thinking about what is best for the patient- not cost.
It was the most pleasant hospital stay of my life, I was treated so well and left looking and feeling refreshed. This was at a large public hospital (it gets really luxurious at smaller clinics, which are still paid for, but for larger, technically demanding things, you need large university affiliated hospitals).
Life threatening diseases-Cancer patients in France are given any treatment possible, including experimental ones, and it is all paid for 100%. In the US, these are only available to the super-rich who can pay out of pocket and since they are not widely available, doctors do not have much experience using them which is not good.
I cannot speak from experience for any other systems, but France is superb and I can see why it has the lowest post-surgical complications (WAY lower than US!). I will be forever grateful to France for giving me the chance to have a normal life and treating me so incredibly well.
#8 Posted by CEK, CJR on Sat 21 Apr 2012 at 02:13 PM