Leave it to Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman to speed along the process of making seniors on Medicare pay more for their care—the cost control method of choice at the moment, since it doesn’t disturb the profits of major stakeholders. After all, it was Lieberman who sealed the death warrant for the public option during the health reform debate. So the legislation he has proposed along with Senator Tom Coburn is consistent with his political MO. Lieberman’s proposal along with others like it may well slip into the bill, authorizing an increase in the debt ceiling with nary a word from the seniors who depend on the program. It would be grand if they knew what was afoot.
The plan is deceptively referred to as “Medicare benefit simplification,” says Joe Baker, who heads the Medicare Rights Center, a New York City advocacy group. “What they are proposing is not simplifying the benefit to help consumers but to save the federal government money, and they do that by increasing costs to consumers and providing a disincentive to use medical services.” Lieberman et al want to create a single deductible of $550 for all Medicare services, replacing the separate hospital deductible—this year $1132—and the separate medical deductible of $162. They also want to cap out-of-pocket spending for people with low to middling incomes at $7500.
Those with higher incomes would have to pay more out-of-pocket in a further effort to means-test the program. There’s already some means testing in Medicare, but Lieberman’s proposal would add more. For example, under his plan, people with an income of $85,000 would have to pay $12,500 out-of-pocket, or about 15 percent of their income before collecting benefits. Experts have long feared that as those with higher incomes pay more, they will lose their support for the program and opt out for private market coverage—thus weakening Medicare’s risk pool, which makes it possible to insure sick people in their old age.
Baker says a lower, combined deductible is not a good idea. It would raise out-of-pocket costs for millions of beneficiaries who don’t use hospital services during the year. But nearly all seniors go to the doctor, often several times a year, and Lieberman’s plan would require them to pay a $550 deductible instead of the $162 deductible they pay now for physician services. Under current law, they also pay 20 percent of the bills for doctor services, but Medigap policies, the popular ones at least, cover that amount.
That brings up another goal of Lieberman’s plan—to reduce the amount of coverage Medigap insurance can provide. His plan would forbid Medigap policies, which are owned by some ten million seniors, from paying that deductible. All Medigap policies now cover the hospital deductible, and two of them—Plans F and C—cover the medical deductible. Two-thirds of seniors who have Medigaps buy these plans because they want to reduce their risk of out-of-pocket expenses. Over the last few years, under the guise of consumer choice, Congress has authorized insurers to sell new Medigap plans that cost less but don’t cover as many of the holes. Guess what? Older people don’t seem to buy them. “Seniors are very risk averse,” says Bonnie Burns, a policy specialist with California Health Advocates.
It’s worth noting that Congress also pulled a fast one during the health reform debate. It slipped into the law a provision that will make seniors who buy Plans C and F assume more costs for their medical services. The law calls on the National Association of Insurance Commissioners to draft rules that would make seniors who choose Plans C and F pay a greater percentage of the Part B coinsurance. So, for example, instead of policies paying the entire 20 percent coinsurance as they now do, they may cover only a fraction of it. Campaign Desk has repeatedly noted that the pols haven’t been eager to promote this, but there has been little press interest, too.
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Another parting gift from Holy Joe. He's making sure low income seniors take the brunt of his misplaced concern for the deficit. It's a sad ending for another two-faced politician who could care less for anyone not in his own family.
#1 Posted by dpjbro, CJR on Tue 12 Jul 2011 at 03:17 PM
In what universe does this screed qualify as "journalism"?
One paragraph making the ridiculous claim that Lieberman is stealing from seniors to protect "profits" (tax dollars in the treasury are "profits" in Lieberman Land?)
And the entire remaining balance of this nonsensical tripe is nothing other than a single-sourced press release from some government funded advocacy group with a HUGE axe to grind! You think that maybe... Just maybe... The "Medicare Rights Center" might have a horse in the race, given its government funding? Huh? You think?
Seriously, Trudy? You call this "journalism"?
Nothing from Lieberman's office? Not a peep about the other side of the issue? Did you even ask?
Of course not. It will be a snowy day in the Hot Place before both sides of the issue make it past your keyboard.
You need to hand up the "journalist" hat, and go get a job with one of these tax-sucking "advocacy groups"... Lord knows there's a ton of money in it.
#2 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Tue 12 Jul 2011 at 03:47 PM
And speaking of these "advocacy groups"... Let's talk about the "California Health Advocates" - another government-funded advocacy group, with a rather obvious horse in the Medicare race.
This is one of Trudy's favorite tactics - beat up on a conservative, rip up a press release and then go running off to a couple of liberal "expert sources" for cover to present only one side (the commie/liberal side) of the issue.
How about asking the Heritage Foundation about this matter, Trudy? Why can't we learn what they have to say about Medicare? Or how about another conservative advocacy organization that doesn't accept government funding?
Don't you think your readers deserve to hear all sides of the issue?
#3 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Tue 12 Jul 2011 at 04:07 PM
"How about asking the Heritage Foundation about this matter, Trudy? Why can't we learn what they have to say about Medicare? Or how about another conservative advocacy organization that doesn't accept government funding?"
Maybe it's because they're lying jerks who's analysis is as political and dishonest as it is shoddy?
Or maybe it's because they're funded with the money of insane rich ferengis who care less about seniors and more about their precious latinum?
Or maybe because questions of analysis should be critiqued on the basis of the analysis, not on the basis of "balance"/
If the analysis is solid, then it shouldn't matter where it came from, whether the person it refers to was contacted, or whether the local conservative lie peddler was consulted for balance.
I sure don't remember you mentioning any of these criticisms about that "journalist" Breitbart. I sure remember you praising O'Keefe for his whatever-you-call-it.
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/okeefe_teaches_media_a_lesson_again.php
You're a hack, Padi. If you got a problem with the conclusions, then do your own analysis and post your critique. Otherwise, stop your bitching,
#4 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 12 Jul 2011 at 07:45 PM
Thimbles babbles from either defective or selective memory: "I sure don't remember you mentioning any of these criticisms about that "journalist" Breitbart. I sure remember you praising O'Keefe for his whatever-you-call-it."
padikiller tolls the Reality Bell once again: If you bothered to read what I wrote, Thimbles, you would find this statement I posted in the thread to which you linked:
"O'Keefe isn't a journalist... And, personally, I don't like his M.O."
So, who's the "hack" here, Thimbo?
Turning to matters of substance, once again we see the liberal hypocrisy, plainly cast in stark hue...
Liberal advocacy groups that suckle at the government teat are hunky-dory, A-1, ironclad sources worthy of consideration by self-proclaimed "professional journalists"... But conservative advocacy groups that are privately funded are "lying jerks who's analysis is as political and dishonest"...
Because... because... Thimbles says so...
So providing readers only the liberal analysis (from "experts" who are paid from the programs subject to funding cuts) amounts to "professional journalism" in Liberal La La Land... All the readers deserve is one side of the controversy (the liberal side).
What a crock of crap!...
#5 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Tue 12 Jul 2011 at 08:09 PM
"Because... because... Thimbles says so..."
Because... because... they are.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/memory-hole-alert/
http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201106230004
These are the guys that propagated the "73 dollar and hour" auto workers' union and the "Obama's 2009 budget quadripled the deficit" claims. Their record is long and worthless.
"Liberal advocacy groups that suckle at the government teat are hunky-dory, A-1, ironclad sources worthy of consideration by self-proclaimed "professional journalists""
No, you hack, that's not what I said. If you believe the analysis of the liberal group to be incorrect, present your analysis and reasoning. I don't say "trust them", I say disagree with them and show your work.
Your critique wasn't that the work was wrong, and you sure haven't shown as much, your critique was that it was imbalanced.
To which I say "What a crock of crap!"
"If you bothered to read what I wrote, Thimbles, you would find this statement I posted in the thread to which you linked:"
And if you read what I said, you would see that I said "I sure don't remember you mentioning any of these criticisms about that "journalist" Breitbart". And you only have to go through the archives of this site to find you in your pom poms bouncing for O'Keefe.
Your recent problems with O'Keefe stem from the constant embarrassment you feel whenever someone gets the uncut versions of his hatchet jobs.
Or maybe I'm wrong and maybe a different padkiller typed:
"NPR = DOA
It's done...
Put the rabid dog down, already.
Chalk another "W" in the win column for O'Keefe and his Handycam."
Yeah, you totally sense the personal distaste for his M.O. there.
Hackity Hackity Hack.
#6 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 12 Jul 2011 at 11:37 PM
LOL!...
Now it's just getting silly (as it always does when Thimbles comes to play).
The proof that conservative advocacy groups are "bad" comes from liberals? Including the guy who in 1998 that predicted the internet would have no greater impact on society than the fax machine? Oh, and let's not forget the Soros funded liberal mouthpiece...
So conservative advocacy groups are bad because... because... Thimbles' pet liberals say so!..
The offenses? One line of one chart edited in one post. Egad! The horror! EDITING! Oh, and one guy in one post on one blog made a single gaffe. Off with his head!...
And THIS is supposed to be some sort of general indictment against the whole organization? For real?
Too, too funny!
The simple truth of the matter is that here in CJR-Land, there is a plain double-standard - when you need an "expert" to take down a non-liberal, you go running off to a couple of liberal advocacy groups. And then.. Presto!... Pseudoauthenticity!
A real "professional journalist" would either eschew such biased organizations, or at least offer both sides... Trudy isn't interested in journalism, however - She's clearly an advocate operating under deep cover and it's just wrong.
You can't blame me for calling her on it.
Finally, Thimbles... Speaking of Soros-funded liberal mouthpieces.. Let's see how NPR's federal funding fares in the next election cycle, shall we?
I think you will find that my prediction will be more accurate than Krugman's was.
#7 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Wed 13 Jul 2011 at 06:41 AM
padi needs a sean hannity without the crisco
#8 Posted by sergio ruano, CJR on Wed 13 Jul 2011 at 10:16 PM
@sergio
You guys can't defend Trudy's single-sourced dependence on liberal advocacy groups in her screeds, so you resort to this kind of snarky, juvenile sniping.
#9 Posted by padikiller, CJR on Thu 14 Jul 2011 at 07:47 AM
For those seniors who read this and are concerned about possible changes, I would recommend giving us a call to see if there are better options for you available with other carriers. Medicare supplement policies are standardized, so each plan F is the same as another plan F. The only difference is price and finanical strength of the company.
Thanks
Heather
www.mymedigapconsultant.com
#10 Posted by Heather@MMC, CJR on Thu 14 Jul 2011 at 03:52 PM