Dear Robert:
I read a Washington Post column of yours just after Christmas—the one about the fairness dilemma and how Baby Boomers need to take a hit on Social Security and Medicare. You’ve been making these points for some time now, which you do tell your readers. And that’s great. Repeating your position is fine. I probably repeat mine, too. What is not fine is skimping on the facts when making your arguments, no matter which side they support. So in the spirit of journalistic excellence and helping the public as much as possible, I would like to call out a couple of points on Medicare to keep in mind next time you tackle this subject.
You argue that “neither political party seems interested in reducing benefits for baby boomers,” because that would be unfair to people who had planned retirements based on existing programs. “Not making cuts would also be unfair to younger generations and the nation’s future,” you state, and the “solutions are clear.” They include raising eligibility for Social Security benefits, cutting benefits for wealthier retirees, and making people who turn sixty-five pay some or all of their health insurance costs until they become eligible for full benefits. I assume you mean someone getting full benefits at age sixty-six or sixty-seven or sixty-nine won’t get Medicare right away. All that, of course, is your opinion, which a column is supposed to offer.
Here’s the part that needs more work. You say:
Better-off recipients could pay higher premiums. These and other changes should start soon—in a few years once the recovery strengthens.
And then you note that Medicare premiums for wealthier people have increased modestly, affecting about five percent of beneficiaries, “but politicians fear making major changes” because they’re scared of the AARP and millions of retirees and near-retirees.
Mr. Samuelson. Politicians have already made changes, which you did not mention. You do link to an issue brief from the Kaiser Family Foundation noting that wealthier folks—those with incomes over $85,000 for a single person and $170,000 for couples—already pay higher premiums for Part B services, and they have paid them since 2007. This year, wealthier beneficiaries will also pay an income-related premium for their Part D, or drug benefits. Same income thresholds apply.
The income thresholds for Part B were indexed, which meant that fewer people would pay the higher amounts over time. The health care reform law ended all that. This little-known aspect of the law froze those income thresholds, so that each year more and more “wealthier” people will be subject to the higher premiums. Kaiser experts estimate that by 2019 one fifth of Medicare beneficiaries who enroll in Part B for the first time will pay higher premiums. That year eleven percent will pay higher Part D premiums. The percentage is lower because more higher-income people are likely to get their drug coverage from retiree plans provided by their employers.
The Kaiser brief is a bit too wonky for some people so the public could have been helped by clear explanations on your part. People are hungry for any help they can get these days. It would be a shame if a high profile WaPo columnist couldn’t help them out.
Samuelson's deceitful rhetoric is mind boggling.
With thens of millions of "entitlees" who spend their entire adult lives on the receiving end, which group includes millions illegal aliens and their progeny, he chose to call for ripping off those who actually contributed most to the system. And although he has never referred to the parasites (domestic and imported) who collect partial or total subsidies while being young, healthy, and able to work, as a "burden", nor has he used this pejorative term towards those who irresponsibly make more kids than they can afford to feed and rear, he calls those senior citizens who spent their productive lives on hard work and paying taxes a "burden" for the society.
I wish I could spit in Mr. Samuelson's face.
#1 Posted by A Reader, CJR on Tue 11 Jan 2011 at 12:39 AM
The illegal aliens pay payroll taxes and don't pay benefits.
Consult here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/02/opinion/02wed3.html
and here:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/03/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/
#2 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 11 Jan 2011 at 01:07 AM
Illegals pay payroll taxes on the money that they are being paid
"under the table"?
Although they may not pay benefits, does it mean they do not (or will not) collect them?
Does it really matter what exact federally-funded category are they collecting subsidies from?
Is the NYT a credible arbiter in these matters?
Your simplistic logic is flawed.
Here are links to more credible sources:
http://www.cis.org/node/54
and
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_18_2/tsc_18_2_rubenstein_ssa.shtml
#3 Posted by A Reader, CJR on Tue 11 Jan 2011 at 01:36 AM
Here is another link, this one regarding the SS totalization agreement, that invalidates your main argument:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/050107Pact.htm
You need to be more careful with your inferences. "Simple" does not necessarily mean "valid". Yours is an example of the former but not the latter.
#4 Posted by A Reader, CJR on Tue 11 Jan 2011 at 01:52 AM
We're talking about medicare and social security, right? Even your out of date sources say:
http://www.cis.org/node/54
"Social Security and Medicare.
Although we find that the net effect of illegal households is negative at the federal level, the same is not true for Social Security and Medicare. We estimate that illegal households create a combined net benefit for these two programs in excess of $7 billion a year, accounting for about 4 percent of the total annual surplus in these two programs. However, they create a net deficit of $17.4 billion in the rest of the budget, for a total net loss of $10.4 billion. Nonetheless, their impact on Social Security and Medicare is unambiguously positive."
Anyways, I didn't want to turn this into a big thing. There are arguments about illegal immigration which one can get into, but immigrants collecting social security and medicare isn't one of them. I was just pointing that out.
#5 Posted by Thimbles, CJR on Tue 11 Jan 2011 at 02:32 AM
No, we are not. They add to the federal deficit and it doesn't really matter how one categorize the benefits they draw - it makes draconian budgetary measures, cutting the SS benefits being one of them, more certain.
And even when we restrict ourselves to SS, there two more elements here that invalidate your thesis that illegals do not affect SS solvency: the SS totalization agreement that creates a loophole in SS preventive laws and the status adjustment that allows illegals to tap to SS, eventually, even without loopholes and fraud (a large number of illegals do or did possess unlawfully obtained SSNs; that they are allowed to use them is beyond comprehension).
In this context, we are talking about future insolvency of SS. By then, a 35-years old illegal who got a legal status (and are not reported in the "illegal" category anymore) based on 245 (i) exception will be eligible for the benefits with everybody else.
#6 Posted by A Reader, CJR on Tue 11 Jan 2011 at 03:31 AM