“The definition of ‘employee’ under the Fair Labor Standards Act, which regulates minimum wages, is very elastic, I mean it speaks to the economic realities of circumstances,” said Greenberg. “I think it’s an interesting issue. Whether it would be an issue that would be particularly viable or likely to succeed with respect to a litigation claim, I just don’t know. It would certainly be intriguing if these people were to organize somehow.”
Another professor who teaches employment law, Michael Selmi of George Washington University Law School, responded by e-mail to a question about whether The Huffington Post would under any circumstances be required to pay its writers: “That will depend on the duties of each writer, whether they are assigned jobs by Huffington as opposed to freelancers who submit stories, and whether there is a continuing relationship.”
The thousands of unpaid bloggers in question, of course, have signed no agreement with the site, and are under no obligation to submit their stories with any regularity. They do not receive assignments. If they have an idea for a post but then decide not to write it, they are not penalized by the site’s editors in any way. This lack of regimentation in that editor/writer relationship would weaken the bloggers’ (hypothetical) case against The Huffington Post.
That lack of regimentation, in fact, is exactly what many bloggers love about The Huffington Post: it’s a forum for them to express themselves freely, where they can potentially be read by millions, and use that platform to attract attention to their personal blogs or book projects or whatever else they’re working on. Founding editor Roy Sekoff, interviewed by Bloomberg Businessweek for an article about the fact that The Huffington Post’s model is unlikely to change anytime soon, calls it “a symbiotic relationship.” Contributors are willing to write for free in the short term because of the community they feel they are a part of, and the many other long-term benefits they feel they can get for their efforts.
When bloggers no longer feel it’s in their interest—or that it’s disproportionally too much in AOL/HuffPo’s interest—then they’ll quit, which they have every right to do. They’ll either drift off quietly, or, as is also their right, make a big splash. Mayhill Fowler is one such writer, who attracted a lot of attention with her blog post last year, “Why I Left The Huffington Post.” In her short e-mail to Roy Sekoff and Arianna Huffington, which she reprinted, she wrote, “Without pay and some editorial support and a reportorial community for belonging, I find it increasingly hard to find anything worthwhile to say.” Sekoff wrote back to her, wished her the best, and that was that.
After all, she was never under contract. After all, she was just one writer among many. And maybe that’s the point. Every individual writer has his or her own individual motivations for contributing for the site: to promote a book, to link back to a personal blog, to build a brand, to get clips to work towards a writing job. Together, they form a community of like-minded, but diverse, voices. And The Huffington Post is under no legal obligation to give them anything more than that forum. Under current labor law—unless we’re missing something here—The Huffington Post’s business model is perfectly legal. But is it right?
Even though the writers don’t feel that they are being used, that doesn’t mean that they aren’t. The Huffington Post reaps actual direct financial rewards from all this free labor, whereas the bloggers’ rewards are indirect, and primarily emotional. That has always been true, but the contrast is thrown into much sharper relief when we suddenly learn the extent of those financial rewards, to the tune of $315 million.

For your and your readers' further edification, Lauren, you might read Jason Linkins piece here How The Huffington Post Works (In Case You Were Wondering) where he explains clearly and patiently the difference between what he, a paid HuffPo journo does compared to HuffPo bloggers, and he also addresses the paid use of aggregated content. It always helps to start with the actual facts, and then make your argument. Your piece wasn't bad, but your headline and the fact that you are comparing the AOL case with HuffPost tells me that you are a mite uninformed here. Either that, you you are committed to the anti-Arianna zombie lies that are being spun out by the MSM.
Please read and let me know what you think.
Cheers.
#1 Posted by James, CJR on Fri 11 Feb 2011 at 08:51 AM
Thanks for reading, James. Yes, I saw Linkins' piece yesterday - there is, of course, a difference between HuffPost's dozens of paid staff reporters/writers/editors and their thousands of unpaid non-staff bloggers (just as there is a difference between AOL's paid computer programmers and designers and unpaid volunteers). I don't think anyone's saying that their paid writers should be paid more - at issue are the thousands who aren't paid at all. In this piece, I'm only comparing the latter -- the HuffPost bloggers and the AOL volunteers. You'll see that by the end of my little thought experiment I conclude that the comparison is not, in fact, a direct one, and that's the point.
#2 Posted by Lauren Kirchner, CJR on Fri 11 Feb 2011 at 10:13 AM
Yeah, I did note that you concluded that the cases weren't really comparable, nor was it comparable to the Alamo case. As I said, the piece wasn't bad; actually, it was pretty good on second reading. My objection really goes to the framing, evidenced by your subhed, and your presenting the argument of Rutten way up high, which is completely off the mark and fact-free. I thought it rather biased that you didn't present the actual facts as represented by Linkins and others that go to the reality, along with the distortions peddled by Rutten and seemingly the entire MSM. Perhaps I'm just taking objecting to a stylistic issue. Anyway, thanks for responding. Much appreciated.
#3 Posted by James, CJR on Fri 11 Feb 2011 at 11:58 AM
IF it was proven that the HuffPo gets more readership, thus creating more public presence, ultimately resulting in the deal with AOL, due primarily to its free blogging community then conceivably that is an unfair advantage/competitive edge over newspapers who pay their writers. Those newspapers might have to join the unpaid bloggers in filing a lawsuit. Alas, however, many of the newspapers also have unpaid bloggers. A brilliant legal mind might be able to distinguish these facts and the bloggers could have their day in court.
#4 Posted by KathyV, CJR on Fri 11 Feb 2011 at 06:57 PM
Jaron Lanier voiced the regrets of the Internet generation in his recent book, "You are not a gadget," in which he lamented the "information wants to be free" meme, which has turned into "You can work for us for free." I wrote about this in the blog post at http://www.lubetkin.net/2010/01/12/open-inversions-getting-paid-%E2%80%93-and-doing-online-things-right/.
George Lucas told Kara Swisher in response to a question about YouTube that he was amazed at how many people were willing to work for free. We have a filmmaker who just got thousands of people to submit Day in the Life videos so that he can get his name in the IMDB and go to Sundance and everywhere else on the talkshow circuit to tell how great social media and crowdsourcing is for making a movie. So far as I can tell, no one is being compensated for their contribution, but he's sure living large on the buzz.
Now, Ariana Huffington collects a $315 million payday on the backs of people who contributed free content, and everyone is shocked, shocked, that she's not sharing it?
Come on.
They got what they deserved when they agreed to this business model. Someone asked me a while back if I was interested in bartering for podcast production.
My response was, "Sure, I will barter podcasts for cash."
It's really simple. Don't work for people who don't pay you.
Steve "@PodcastSteve" Lubetkin
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#5 Posted by Steve "@PodcastSteve" Lubetkin, CJR on Fri 11 Feb 2011 at 08:50 PM
I was a community leader for AOL for three years in the 1990s. How do I get my share from that class action lawsuit?
#6 Posted by Tom, CJR on Tue 12 Apr 2011 at 05:54 PM