In November of 2009, an editor at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch decided to show his readers who was boss. After a commenter persisted in posting “a vulgar expression for a part of a woman’s anatomy” on a “Talk of the Day” feature asking readers to name “the craziest thing you’ve ever eaten,” the editor, Kurt Greenbaum, observed that the comment originated from a local school’s IP address. Greenbaum called the school to inform them that somebody had been posting obscene comments from one of their computers. Shortly thereafter, officials at the school deduced that the comments had been posted by an adult employee. After being confronted with the evidence, the employee resigned.
Greenbaum told this story in a matter-of-fact Post-Dispatch blog post titled “Post a vulgar comment while you’re at work, lose your job.” The post, along with a follow-up, elicited over 600 responses from readers, overwhelmingly upset at the heavy-handed move and Greenbaum’s perceived smugness in defending it. (On his Twitter account, Greenbaum professed amazement “at the readers who comment in defense of a jackass who posted a vulgarity on our site — and lost his job.”)
He may well have expected praise for his actions. A jackass had posted a stupid comment. In the interest of civility, Greenbaum removed both the comment and the jackass. But the community made it clear that they found Greenbaum’s presumptions of authority far more menacing than any tasteless remarks:
“You have now set a very confusing precedent to the STLtoday.com community, and one that I hope will give people pause about whether it’s really worth posting here to begin with.” – Andrew
“What troubles me most is that you seem to have forgotten is that journalism dies when we lose the public’s trust. You have destroyed your credibility and trust with your readers. As a result your have gravely damaged the credibility of this newspaper, and of this website in particular. That you are free to post a glib and disingenuous “follow up” demonstrates that the paper’s management has forgotten, too.” – Jim Logan
“Your success, and the success of your paper, is predicated upon the trust of your readership. It is immaterial if you did not violate the letter of the law in regards to your privacy policy. What matters is that, clearly, the vast majority of your readers feel that you have violated their understanding of your privacy policy.” – Slueth Me
“TRUST is a big deal between the media and public.. that’s why other journalists have gone to jail rather than reveal their sources. Why should we trust you any longer?” – Guest
“This makes me think much less of the P-D as a news organization, and it certainly makes me less interested in continuing to read your site or participate in your conversation.” – mccxxiii
“As of this morning, I was working on my application to the University of Missouri’s grad school for Journalism…. And the essay question was ‘what are the greatest threat[s] to American journalism in the next decade?’ My original answer was the decline of paper and literacy but I have decided to change my answer to you.” – Wilson
There are limits to what you can generalize from the Greenbaum affair. (As one commenter put it: “What you’ve done, Mr. Greenbaum, is so far from what almost any other journalist would have done that you are nothing but an outlier, not worthy of generalization. You’re a cautionary tale.”) Yet there are plenty of lessons to be learned from the Post-Dispatch commenters’ near-uniform hostility to Greenbaum’s actions. Cumulatively, those reactions are a case study in how newspapers no longer wield the monopolistic authority they once did in the communities they serve. For decades, by deciding what stories were covered and how they were covered, newspapers set the boundaries of acceptable discourse in their communities. They reinforced normative community manners—and those communities allowed them to do so, with (for the most part) little complaint.
For many reasons, readers are no longer as willing to let this happen. Rather, they are empowered as never before to define community manners and standards themselves—and to reject any heavy-handed efforts to influence those definitions. In attempting to “teach a lesson” to a commenter who had overstepped the boundaries, Greenbaum misinterpreted those boundaries himself—and miscalculated the extent to which he was authorized to set them.
In a follow-up blog post addressing the comment controversy, Greenbaum admitted that, before deciding to call the school about the vulgar comment, he probably should have “walked the idea around the newsroom.” While that move wouldn’t have hurt, it still presumes that the newsroom is the ultimate authority in setting community boundaries. What he really should have done is walked the idea around the Internet.
In his book My Pilgrim’s Progress, the critic George W.S. Trow explained how the media both defines and dominates the communities it serves. Trow wrote about what he called the Dominant Mind—the subtext of any given society; the primary ethic around which a community is oriented. For readers of The Wall Street Journal, the dominant mind is Wall Street. For the mid-twentieth-century Chicago Tribune, the dominant mind was prosperous Main Street conservatism.
A news outlet identifies and defines its community’s dominant mind, and then filters its news through that definition. This isn’t a matter of editorial-page bias so much as the sorts of stories that an outlet covers, and how those stories are reported and edited. The Journal doesn’t limit itself to reporting on mergers and acquisitions. But its coverage of other issues generally assumes that its core readership is steeped in the Wall Street perspective. The New York Post doesn’t just write about sex scandals and the politics of resentment. But its work is generally filtered through a dominant ethic of working-class prurience and reactionary populism.





Man, this is pretty deep stuff for such a stupid mistake this Greenbaum guy did. Either way, he got what was coming. I notice just recently he crawled out from underneath his rock and quietly started working again after a two or so month on-line vacation. One other thing, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch has always weighed more on the left than in the middle.
Posted by Steve on Fri 5 Mar 2010 at 06:25 PM
"The news outlet’s role is to 'sort all these competing perspectives and, for better or for worse, assert the dominant one.”'"
Really? That is why "journalism" is dying. It's stopped being journalism and has become advocacy.
Most of us who consume the news feel the news outlet's role is to "report the news." Stop trying to asset perspectives; if necessary, include and explain them (and give comparable weight to counter-perspectives), but report the facts.
Stop asserting. Start reporting. Or die.
Posted by jeff d on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 01:15 PM
Is authority over community standards the issue? Or is it the right to enforce editorial standards?
Five years ago, my office was the work site for a consuling group that was advising the sponsors of a new think tank on issues of the northern plains about locations. My town was on the list because it is central, has higher education institutions, but is remote enough and small enough to offer a compatible environment for study and thought. When the decision was mae, the consultants had quite a list of the town's advantages. At the end of their presentation, they stunned us with the conclusion that the town would be an unsuitable place.
Their main reason was explained with comments from the local newspapers discussion board, comments which were abusive, insulting, and often just plain stupid. The consultants said that the kind of people who work in think tanks would not find an acceptable social environment in our town.
Immediately, the town promoters protested, saying the comments represented only a few individuals, not the attitudes of the community. The consultants said, wrong! The fact that a few people responded to the comments with other abusive and insuling comments rather than simply pointing out the scurrility indicated a community attitude that accepted that kind of discourse, and it indicates the level of thought, attitude, and discourse that is considered acceptable. They pointed out that discussion boards are dominated by people of this nature but that the community gives them assent.
I wonder what they would make of the Post Dispatch comments.
Posted by Ann V on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 02:36 PM
Both guys in this story are jerks. I don't think any lessons can be drawn from it.
Newspaper web sites shouldn't let people hide behind anonymity for the same reasons newspapers don't let people hide behind anonymity. It just brings out the worst in people and hurts, not helps, society.
Posted by Keith Roberts on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 04:42 PM
There is no Dominant Mind, as Jung proposed. There is a herd mentality which dominates every culture, It is an instinctive swarm response functioning at a survival level. We have developed multiple cultural expressions based on religious, racial, nationality, and economic differences since the internet has made it easy to give opinions a sense of reality by seeing them in print and having them debated regardless of whether or not they have any substantive value, discourse has degenerated to a personal attack on any opposing opinions. This as a herd response to fear, an emotion that spreads throughout the swarm causing mass flight and blind defense reactions.
Our government understands this and has used it to influence policies of benefit to special interests. The crowd seeks leadership and trusts government to preserve its safety. We are beginning to learn about the damage done to the people immobilized by a fear to think as individuals.
Posted by Morton Kurzweil on Mon 8 Mar 2010 at 05:49 PM
You suck ghd. If I had a voodoo doll with your name on it, I'd dip it's hair in furniture polish.
Then I'd give the dog a new chew toy.
Posted by Thimbles on Fri 16 Apr 2010 at 10:07 PM