Gawker Media publisher Nick Denton recently introduced a new commenting system, called Kinja, on his network of websites. Rather than showing all comments on a given article, Kinja shows only the most interesting thread of comments and replies. Denton hopes this will finally make reporters and sources pay attention to the comments instead of dismissing them; to help ensure that, he’s ordered his staff writers to reply to interesting comments on their articles.
“The goal is to erase the traditional distinctions between writers, editors, readers, subject, and sources,” Denton told CJR in a Gchat. At the same time, he insisted, “our goal is to help our writers each achieve greater influence and reach with the same amount of work.” So which is it—does Denton want to empower writers or replace them? It seems unlikely that Gawker will go the way of GOOD magazine, which eliminated the distinction between writers and readers by firing its editorial staff and replacing them with a discussion system for unpaid contributors. (When asked about GOOD, Denton replied that it “sounds like they were trying to put a high-tech complexion on an old-fashioned bankruptcy,” which suggests he doesn’t intend to mimic GOOD’s decisions.)
But it’s not clear whether the interaction with commenters that Kinja demands will benefit or hurt Gawker staffers.
What seems clear is that Gawker staffers will have to embrace Kinja if they want to keep their jobs. Gawker staffers who spoke to Kat Stoeffel , the New York Observer media reporter who published an article about Kinja last week, strongly suggested as much, and the pressure on writers seems likely to increase given Gawker’s lower-than-expected traffic numbers, obtained by CJR.
For the last few months, according to internal traffic stats from a former Gawker staffer, the Gawker network has missed its internal traffic goals for visitors from the US. In April, its traffic goal was 20.8 million unique visitors, but it received only 20.3 million visitors; in May, it expected 20.9 and received only 19.9 million visitors; and in June, it again aimed for 20.9 and received only 19 million visitors. (To be fair to Gawker, growth has flatlined across the Web.)
At Gawker, numbers like these can often mean someone’s job is in trouble. Not that fear for their livelihoods and constantly changing job descriptions are new for Denton’s employees, who are treated differently from most professional writers and reporters. “Gawker writers are hardly professional,” said former Gawker editor Choire Sicha, who now runs the website the Awl. “The guiding principles at Gawker are: People are pretty scared of Nick, people always feel they are about to be fired, and the job is shifting beneath their feet.” Still, these less-than-stellar stats will increase pressure on writers to adapt to Kinja. Responding to the low traffic numbers, Denton explained that “making the best sites we can should increase uniques.” For Denton, of course, a centerpiece of “the best sites” is Kinja.
So Gawker writers will embrace the new commenting platform. Whether this will help or hurt them depends to some degree on whether other, more prestigious news outlets—the kind of places that Gawker’s young writers aim to end up—follow Denton’s lead. If these sites try to maintain a sharp distinction between writers and commenters, then time spent replying to comments could be wasted time for Gawker’s young and ambitious writers.
Over the last decade, many Gawker staffers have gone on to choice jobs. Gabriel Snyder, a former editor, was scooped up by The Atlantic Wire, and he later hired away Gawker’s TV reviewer, Richard Lawson. Maureen O’Connor was recently picked up by New York Magazine to edit features for its fashion blog, The Cut. Alex Pareene, Gawker’s erstwhile politics editor, got a staff writing job at Salon, and his successor, Jim Newell, now contributes to Salon, Wonkette, and the Guardian. Elizabeth Spiers, Gawker’s first editor, is now editor-in-chief of the New York Observer.
If anyone were worried about the effects that Kinja could have on journalism, it would be these Gawker alums, who got hired by more established journalistic outlets on the strength of their writing. But most aren’t concerned. They’re apathetic.
That Spider-man is a menace.
But he's a saint compared to Gawker!
#1 Posted by J Jonah Jameson, CJR on Fri 6 Jul 2012 at 04:26 PM
"Right now, young reporters often must write, blog, aggregate, and tweet, which leaves little time for actually reporting."
My dear Peter, write, blog, aggregate and tweet IS reporting. Ask any venture capitalist.
Ask any sociopath.
#2 Posted by Edward Ericson Jr., CJR on Mon 9 Jul 2012 at 11:16 AM
I am impressed by the amount of passion that Mr. Denton has for his new Kinja toy. What great news, that other websites may follow Kinja's lead to make it a leading web platform.
The world needs to know so much more about Hot Pockets and Pokemon.
#3 Posted by former_gawkerer, CJR on Mon 9 Jul 2012 at 01:03 PM
Having used Kinja since its debut on several Gawker sites, I'm not entirely sure what Denton means by saying that it sorts by most interesting comment. Frankly, I think it's completely unusable--just a very awkward and unnecessary reinvention of threaded commentary. I don't think he should be making decisions about presentation anymore.
#4 Posted by P.F. Bruns, CJR on Mon 9 Jul 2012 at 08:44 PM
Thank you, Mr. Sterne, for helping me to wrap my senile little brain around Gawker's headline:
"Frontline Documentary About ‘AIDS in Black America’ Still Doesn’t Reveal Who Gave Magic Johnson HIV"
... and, in particular, the meaning of the following excerpts:
"Our source ... said he had other people willing to verify Magic's non-female proclivities on the record. The source would only do so for a large sum of money that was too expensive for Gawker Media, let alone Deadspin ...
"If anyone has any more information about who gave Magic Johnson HIV, please feel free to contact us. I think we can afford to pay more money for this now."
Sounds like they're talkin' sums as large as, oh, $100 at least ! (That's of course in Kinja-Kash so the "winning source" must either divide by 10 for the actual cash value or else go pick out one of them really nifty Gawker t-shirts ...)
But what's money compared to the vast pride -- not to mention the career-boost -- of helping Gawker to scoop the competition on such a pressing and vitally important story ?
Won't be long before America starts singing the praises of this revolution in journalism: "Oh, say, Kinja see ..."
#5 Posted by Gawker Knocker, CJR on Thu 12 Jul 2012 at 09:32 AM
"Even if it doesn’t revolutionize journalism, Kinja could fix this problem, since it allows writers to control which comments are displayed. "
You mean the way it used to be, where new commenters were vetted by the established, and ignored (pinks) if they were not up to snuff? Where commenters were valued for their insight, and held very closely the concept of 'quality in, quality out? You mean the system Gawker had before Kinja, or PowWow, or AJ for that matter? The system that consistently brought in page views? You mean that system?
#6 Posted by former Gawker current Awl, CJR on Sat 14 Jul 2012 at 04:03 AM
Kinja is awesome and breaking up the clique of starred commenters (most of whom added no value or page views to the site) was a huge boon.
AJ is a vile human being and Neetzan has all the charms of a commentbot, but overall Gawker is ironing out the commenting kinks and actually starting to see their new commenting algorithm pay some dividends. It's truly an egalitarian platform for comments, even if the recent quality of the posts has been awful.
#7 Posted by Hot Pocket, CJR on Sat 14 Jul 2012 at 08:51 AM
"Denton thinks they will, once Kinja ushers in a new style of “public journalism” that will be more trustworthy"
I hope he remembered to pack a lunch for the wait.
But vis a vis employee relations, the impression I get is that Denton prefers to staff his shop with apprentices and journeymen. Once they master their craft sufficiently to feel able to take exception to Mr Denton's management style, they move on to more professional venues.
#8 Posted by Snertly, CJR on Sat 14 Jul 2012 at 03:05 PM