The president of CNN could not have sounded more contrite. In today’s New York Times, Jon Klein lamented the small storm that has raged in the blogosphere - and, really, nowhere else - over the background of one of the questioners at the CNN-YouTube debate that took place on Wednesday night. The format allowed for regular folks to submit questions that were then addressed to the Republican candidates, and a few of those people whose video-questions were chosen were flown to Florida to sit in the live audience.
It turns out that the elderly gentleman, retired Brigadier General Keith Kerr, who, in his video and then in person, asked why gays and lesbians shouldn’t be allowed to serve openly in the military — as he had in secret for over forty years — had been listed as one of the four-dozen national co-chairmen of Veterans and Military Retirees for Hillary. Also, he’s a member on one of Clinton’s steering committees for gay and lesbian issues.
“Had we known ahead of time,” Mr. Klein told the Times, “we would probably not have used his question. It raised too many flags, in terms of motivation.”
CNN vetted the questioners whose YouTube videos were chosen to be aired. They did a basic Internet search and then checked to see if they had donated to any campaign. But that did not turn up Kerr’s affiliation because he has never donated money to Clinton. He even says he has supported Republican candidates in the past. Clinton’s camp issued a statement declaring that, “Gen. Kerr is not a campaign employee and was not acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign.”
The YouTube debates are a new forum and everybody has his own interpretation of who exactly constitutes a member of the Joe Schmo public. CNN is understandably touchy about this subject, not wanting to turn the mike over to rabidly partisan questioners. But the case of Brigadier General Kerr is not as problematic as it is being made out to be by the right-wing blogs.
Kerr was asking legitimate question, not of the “gotcha” variety. He was not put up to it by anyone. He submitted his own YouTube video, and told CNN the following day that it was “a private initiative on my own.” All of this, in my book, should qualify him to ask a question as a member of the public without any need for disclaimers.
Even Jon Klein said that although he regrets not vetting Kerr more thoroughly, he is happy that the question was asked:
We were looking for questions that would help Republican voters decide amongst the candidates. We didn’t particularly care who was asking the question, as long as it was strong and relevant to the race.
That sounds right to me, and much more accurate than the cloying apology Klein also felt the need to issue.
Where does it end? Does CNN need to weed out of the audience anyone who has ever attended a Democratic rally or flipped through Barack Obama’s book at a Barnes and Noble? As it was, at least two other questioners from that debate were later deemed unsatisfactory by the blogging heads. One woman, named “Journey,” asked a question about abortion and was later spotted in another YouTube video criticizing the candidates’ responses — while wearing a “John Edwards 08” T-shirt. Still another questioner, who asked if the candidates would accept the support of Log Cabin Republicans, wrote in a profile on Obama’s Web site about how swell he thought the junior senator from Illinois was.
The minimum threshold at these forums should be pegged to interesting questions that elicit telling answers. Klein seems to understand this at some level, but is also too afraid to upset the partisan hounds. The questioners should not be either sycophantic or asking obviously partisan “gotcha” questions. Everything else should be fair game.
This campaign so far has been fraught with bad and stupid questions to the candidates. Can we really afford to disqualify a good one when it comes along?



I disagree wholeheartedly that CNN doesn't owe viewers, and the candidates an apology. They permitted an active campaign worker for the other party to ask a question. That's not necessarily wrong and, indeed, it might be useful for Republican voters to see how their potential nominees respond to hostile questions. But non-disclosure of the questioner's affiliation is wrong and deserves the apology. I'm not with the bloggers who believe that it's part of some grand conspiracy, but I do believe that this incident is just another case of sloppy work that was undoubtedly delegated to junior staffers or interns.
Posted by LongTimeNYT reader
on Fri 30 Nov 2007 at 06:11 PM
Gal Beckerman is a well known progressive who contributes to sites like AlterNet. Given Gal's strong politics, it's know wonder we gives CNN a pass for it's poor journalism.
Posted by Tina Pham
on Fri 30 Nov 2007 at 07:35 PM
Only from Beckermanville...that craziest province of McLearyland..can such tripe eminate...
Notice that Mr. Beckerman "forgets" to mention the little fact that Kerr also supported John Kerry's campaign.. OR that a whole crapload of Democrat ringers (besides Gen. Kerr) made it through CNN's vetters...
Posted by padikiller
on Fri 30 Nov 2007 at 07:41 PM
Gal Beckerman preaches from the Pulpit of Liberalism
The minimum threshold at these forums should be pegged to interesting questions that elicit telling answers.
padikiller responds
"Interesting" questions that elicit "telling" answers, huh?...
Now THERE'S a rock-solid objective standard that CJR's readers can get behind!.. Yet another astounding display of moralism from one of CJR's self-appointed "watchdogs" of "professional journalism"...
But WHO in McLearyland gets to decide what questions are "interesting" enough to allow political operatives to put candidates on the spot without informing either the candidates or the audience of the aganda behind the questions?..
(Answer: Gal Beckerman, apparently)
And WHO gets to decide if the responses are "telling" enough to justify corrupting a fair-minded debate?...
(Answer: Gal Beckerman, once again)
The CJR "watchdogs" had a conniption fit when Hillary Clinton got bad press after she waffled her way around a legitimate question from the moderator about her support of the idiotic plan to dole out driver's licenses to illegal aliens in her state.
Apparently in Beckermanville, the only "interesting" questions are the ones that put Republicans on the spot over liberal issues... And the the only "telling" answers are the ones that work to make Republicans look bad.
Posted by padikiller
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 10:59 AM
I couldn't disagree more with your premise. It's obvious CNN totally disregarded the producers loading the questioners for the Republican primary debates with Democrats.
Isn't that the type of nonsense that the DNC 'feared' FOX would do? Though they hadn't ever done so? Imagine if FOX had hosted such a debate and there were all these 'coincidences.' Would you say that it was probably for the best?
Oh and to be a bit picky, the LA Times television reviewer skewered CNN yesterday on the debates, hardly a blogosphere site. Actually his complaint was the plants in the main, but the fact that CNN skewed the debate towards immigration, as a nod to Lou Dobbs ratings.
Posted by kathianne
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 08:51 PM
This article has the veneer of a real journalistic piece. Beckerman points to the legitimacy of the question as the standard for whether or not the questioner should also be adjudicated as legitimate. She fails to address the critical labeling of the questioner (Gen. Kerr) as a Republican, and the possibility that vetting him and others is a larger journalistic failure. As other commenters have noted, this is a failure of her bias. It is unfortunate, but not unexpected from an Ivy League school with a better-than-thou attitude toward flyover country. Beckerman's opinion also comports well with another well-known journo who believes that his story is legitimate even if the documents which prove the story are forgeries. Beckerman shows that Rather is not one of a kind in journalism.
David J.
Cleveland Heights, OH
Posted by airmanjacobson.com
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 09:26 PM
In today’s New York Times, Jon Klein lamented the small storm that has raged in the blogosphere - and, really, nowhere else - over the background of one of the questioners at the CNN-YouTube debate that took place on Wednesday night.
And why hasn't this controversy been raging elsewhere? Easy, the liberal media isn't interested in truly reporting the news but rather spinning or ignoring the real story behind the news. Imagine that. See the December 2005 UCLA study, "A Measure of Media Bias."
Also, the idea that only one individual, the gay General, was the singular point of controversy is an outright distortion of reality - if not a lie - but this is what one can expect from the lamestream media and those who feed mind-numbed journalists with a "progressive" agenda into media slots.
The following is what I've posted elsewhere on the Internet regarding this disgraceful jaundiced journalism on the part of CNN. It seem apropos here:
At the CNN/Republican debate we find clear examples of liberals lying about being “undecided” or “potential” Republican voters. The following are people who were trying to pass themselves off as “undecided Republican voters” yet now we find out they are anything but that. Way to go CNN, for your wonderful job of vetting these closet liars:
First, so-called “Log Cabin Republican” David Cercone is a very decided voter for Barack Obama.
Second, so-called “undecided Republican voter” LeeAnn Anderson is a committed activist for John Edwards and advocates for union issues.
Adam Florzak is a supporter of and works with Dick Durbin on social security reform.
Mark Strauss is an ardent Bill Richardson supporter. CNN had to have known who Strauss was since he participated in an earlier CNN/YouTube Demoncrap presidential debate! Incompetent morons.
Also, there was another Edwards supporter in the after-debate focus group who was trying to pass himself off as an “undecided Republican.”
The crowning glory was gay General Kerr who, it turns out, is closely affiliated with the sHrillary Clinton campaign. Kerr was also on the steering committee of “Veterans for Kerry.” The question Kerr asked about the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy is indeed legitimate, but it would have been better asked of sHrillary during a Demoncrap debate since it was her husband Bill Clinton who rubberstamped the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy in the first place.
However one cuts it, the real issue here is how these closet liberals, particularly General Kerr who is suppose to be an honorable officer and a gentleman, misrepresented their party affections in order to slime their way into the Republican forum that was suppose to be composed of undecided Republican voters.
Posted by Hankmeister
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 09:44 PM
Obviously, Gal never learned what a Republican primary and the debates leading up to them are about: answering the concerns of Republican Prmary voters. Duh. Is that too hard for you in Columbia to understand or do you need step by step reasoning to show you how illogical your argument is? If you change your premise you just might figure it out: that the debates are not for all voters, but for Republican Primary voters. Stupidity and arrogance are great blinders to common sense. Sounds like the academic world of today.
Posted by Michael Babbitt
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 09:49 PM
What about the fact that the General not only had his question asked, but he was also given an open mic to lecture the candidates when he didn't like their answers? He claimed he didn't get an answer, but he got two (plus a half answer from Romney). But the answers didn't fit his preference, so he lectured the candidates. And the answers didn't fit CNN's biases, so they let him.
And what about the "conservative" questioners that CNN actually posted? A questioner on a shooting range who pumps his shotgun while addressing presidential candidates? A questioner with a rebel flag on his wall? One who ominously asks if they accept as literally true every word of the Bible? CNN has PLENTY to apologize for.
Posted by Stephen
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 10:41 PM
Gal Beckerman is a bit myopic focusing on the esteemed gay General. There's a lot about both of CNN's debates she conveniently ignores.
However, other agencies more concerned than she have actually examined, through Google (I presume CNN has heard of it somewhere), the activities of the various 'undecided voters' whose questions were selected.
They've turned up at least six interlocutors, billed as 'undecided Democratic voters' at Las Vegas but actually Democratic activists, and at least eight (out of 33 total) interlocutors, billed as 'undecided Republican voters' but actually Democratic activists, at Saint Petersburg.
This is not a mere pecadillo. Comparing the CNN-selected questions with recent poll results, it appears that the issues considered most important by those Democratic and Republican voters (sure, different between the parties) were not well represented by the selected questions. Jewelry for Hillary, indeed. During every precious second of time occupied by those faux 'interlocutors' and their responses, many undecided voters were defrauded by the network of responses that would actually be pertinent to their more important quesions.
Perhaps tar and feathers could be restored to favor.
Posted by Insufficiently Sensitive
on Sun 2 Dec 2007 at 11:37 PM
It seems from this column that Mr. Beckerman would have no problem with me publicly questioning the Democratic Party Candidate about which parts of Marx and Engles Communist Manifesto that they disagree with.
Not that I would ever be allowed to do so. It would make for interesting televison and is actually a question that many Americans would want answered
Posted by John Dunshee
on Mon 3 Dec 2007 at 03:09 AM
Somehow I had hoped that a debate among Republican candidates in a Republican Primary might have a couple of questions from Republicans so that we Republicans might get an idea who we should vote for.
We are not particulary interested in what Democrats want to make us look like, we already know you don't like us.
Does this Beckerman person know anyone that has ever voted in a Republican Primary?
Posted by Peter
on Mon 3 Dec 2007 at 03:22 AM
Gal Berkerman, like most tinfoil hatted leftist loons, lives in a distinctly "other" reality than the real folks, of whatever persuasion. Of course, Gal would say CNN needn't apologize, that is their sthick. "Journalism" should be removed from anything at Columbia and "Extreme Partisanship" should replace it.
Posted by sharinlite
on Mon 3 Dec 2007 at 11:00 AM
Regarding CJR's defense of CNN's debate
Television news and newspapers aren't irrelevant in the Internet age. What is irrelevant is the writing J-school graduates pass off as journalism. The reputation of the press will heal once we pass this kidney stone of some forty years of instructors and the students they have warped.
Columbia">http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/cnn_neednt_apologize.php">Columbia Journalism Review illustrates the point with a string of words that compulsively puts down legitimate criticism of CNN's bogus debate questions without daring to address what was wrong. Not looking at things is not the best way to look at things. Whatever the discomfort, CJR needs to face that CNN blew it.
Of course debates need the best questions, but biologists shouldn't suggest their best questions for a chemistry test. Debate questions were to address concerns of undecided Republicans. One does not search for such questions among rabid Democrats, fixed in their convictions and bent on winning at all costs.
It is not news to belabor the obvious, but that's what CJR did. The quality of the questions, upon which the CJR column dwelt, was never an issue. Instead, although calculated to show how sharp it was, CJR's column exposed only its own condescension. CJR ends up a flip pseudo-educated Rosencrantz or Guildenstern playing its game of life oblivious to the realities underneath, until reality bites the player in the ass.
CJR isn't high on my reading list because they represent a Dark Age of journalism. They risk being remembered, if at all, for shallow conceit instead of a backbone of humility and enlightenment. But don't expect them to notice.
Posted by sbw
on Mon 3 Dec 2007 at 10:30 PM
JEFF GANNON EXCLUSIVE!
CNN Reporter: Stacked GOP Debate 'Inexcusable'
CNN's chief national correspondent John King criticized his network's handing of the Republican YouTube debate that critics have called "Debate-gate" because at least ten of the supposed "undecided Republican voters" submitting video questions turned out to be Democratic activists. Responding to a question from the audience at a National Press Club program about media coverage of the 2008 presidential election Monday night, King admitted that "fundamental journalism mistakes" were made in the vetting process.
King called the mistakes "inexcusable" and said that the debacle "should not have happened." So far, CNN has not announced any investigation of the circumstances surrounding controversy or disciplinary action against those responsible for organizing the debate.
- Jeff Gannon will be participating in the Friendly Fire Series on Wednesday, Dec. 5
Posted by Jeff Gannon
on Mon 3 Dec 2007 at 11:47 PM
To paraphrase Gal Beckerman: "Move along people, nothing to see here, nothing to see here"
Posted by TDC
on Tue 4 Dec 2007 at 10:24 AM
If the Democrats were bent on winning at all costs as sbw claims, they'd just rig the elections. But seeing as that was already done in 2000, it's a bit passe. Like wearing white after labor day.
How tacky.
Posted by AhmNee
on Tue 4 Dec 2007 at 05:18 PM