Put this Bloomberg piece in the You Don’t Say! category. It reports that high-frequency traders say high-frequency trading is a good thing.
In other news, Realtors say you should buy a house, and used-car dealers really think you look great in that ‘05 Malibu.
Frank Troise, the head of electronic equity trading products at Barclays Plc, says using computers to execute orders in milliseconds is no different than brokers jockeying for position years ago on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
And who says it isn’t? The suspicions about high-frequency trading, which have been bubbling up for some time now, come not from the speed of the transactions, but from the stacking of the deck that they sometimes entail and/or the potential outright manipulation of markets that they allow.
But Bloomberg doesn’t get to any of that until way down in the thirteenth paragraph:
As the strategies increased in speed, it became impossible for investors without advanced computer systems to get fair prices, according to some market participants. Firms handling large trades complained that brokers using complex algorithms fire off hundreds of orders and immediately cancel them in an effort to trick them into revealing plans to buy or sell.
“If you’re trying to buy a big block of stock, the algorithms notice,” said Bart Barnett, head of equity trading at Morgan Keegan & Co. in Memphis, Tennessee. “It increases volatility and has an adverse effect on the prices customers get on stocks.”
That’s quickly forgotten about as the head of a stock exchange that gets half of its customers from high-frequency trading, extols its virtues:
“The idea of haves and have-nots is just crazy to me,” (Joe) Ratterman said. “Every firm in the U.S. has the ability to invest in the same way that every successful trading firm has done. Trading by definition is a competitive business.”
Somebody with the appropriately named BlackBox Group unsurprisingly agrees:
Ben Townson of New York-based BlackBox Group, which uses high-frequency strategies and specializes in algorithmic trading, says “natural abilities and skills” determine who makes money, not computers.
“You can throw a lot of money at technology, but if you don’t take the time to study your trades, it doesn’t matter,” Townson said. “We’ve built a racecar that is optimized for driving fast. Is that an advantage? Yes. Is it an unfair advantage? No.”
Okay, it’s good, obviously, to take a look at both sides of a story. But this one is too tilted toward sources with obvious and massive biases, to predictable results.
One of the interviewees, Ratterman, defends “flash orders,” which are so obviously bad that the even the major stock exchanges think they ought to be banned—indeed so bad that the molasses-slow regulatory system is moving quickly to ban them after the recent spate of press attention on high-frequency trading (led by the indefatigable blogger “Tyler Durden” of Zero Hedge).
Here’s how The New York Times described flash orders in its page-one story last week:
But rather than being shown to all potential sellers at the same time, some of those orders were most likely routed to a collection of high-frequency traders for just 30 milliseconds — 0.03 seconds — in what are known as flash orders. While markets are supposed to ensure transparency by showing orders to everyone simultaneously, a loophole in regulations allows marketplaces like Nasdaq to show traders some orders ahead of everyone else in exchange for a fee.
Two of the Bloomberg reporters on this story in a separate story yesterday wrote that the NYSE said in May that flash orders hurt investors.
That would have been some nice counterbalance to have in this one.
This whole topic is giving me a headache!
Front running in any form should be banned period.
However....
Trading is not Investing (Doh!).
HF traders compete with institutional traders. Mom and Pop ScotTrade and Joe eTrade with their retail internet accounts and pseudo-level II "feeds" and kick *ss charts are delusional if they think they have a prayer of competing in this space.
Sure they might get lucky with some niche plays that no one else is interested in but, regardless of the speed of the computers, the algorithms, strategies, or whatever else you want to attack as unfair, they simply are not competitive with institutional traders, High Frequency or otherwise.
Institutional traders who compete with sub-optimum compute power in the world markets where micro-seconds matter, by necessity must be really smart or by definition really stupid. Regulating speed is not the answer. Nor the question.
The only solution is to ban intra-day trading all together and return the markets to long only investors (ban short sales for two days) who use market specialists and brokers with very slow, wired, rotary dial phones to execute orders. Then you will have a level playing field. Yeah right.
BTW, Isn't that how Bernie operated? O yeah, he had an AS/400 from the '80s. Poor guy must have been getting his butt kicked by all those HF scoundrels.
Could we PLEASE stop trying to blame technology for our sins?
#1 Posted by Doh!, CJR on Wed 29 Jul 2009 at 09:41 AM
this is not a technology issue
this is a "market rules" issue
some traders "purchase" information from the nyse and the nyse
this information provides tknowledge of trades others will be making
they buy and sell shares related to these upcoming trades to profit from their foreknowlege
seems to me this would be illegal
what do regulators have to say about this?
#2 Posted by jamzo, CJR on Wed 29 Jul 2009 at 11:50 AM