Everybody’s all inflamed about Rupert Murdoch bumbling through part of an interview on News Corp.’s Internet strategy in which he said that he might block Google from indexing Wall Street Journal content online or some such thing.
You’d be a fool to underestimate Murdoch’s intelligence, no matter how familiar he is with computers and the Web himself, and you ought to know a negotiating tactic when you see one with him. The Journal has the cleverest and most successful newspaper Web site in the world—clever because it keeps getting subscription dollars every month from more than a million users, while increasing its traffic significantly by allowing Google searches and, thus, links to come in for one story for free.
But Twitter recently extracted money from Microsoft’s Bing search engine to use its real-time search data. As I said then:
So we have now a precedent that the ability of search engines to index and link to content is worth some money.
Josh Young, newly the Huffington Post’s social news editor, who’s made some smart points about search engines and the newspapers, also points out that Google itself has paid Murdoch before to index his content—that time with MySpace. He says “Murdoch should try to fetch a bid from Bing and let others follow.” Yep. And bet that’s what’s going on here.
Young has some good instincts on this, pointing skeptically to search-engine-expert Danny Sullivan’s post analyzing Google’s contribution to WSJ.com’s top line:
I realize @dannysullivan’s being conservative elsewhere, but I doubt the average visitor from (Google) is worth $15/month
That’s what Sullivan sort of kinda guesses the Journal gets from each Google visitor—fifty cents a day (“Are they worth $0.50 per day? That’s about $180 million per year Bing needs to pay just to the WSJ alone to guarantee they’re not losing that $0.50 per day, per person, that they might be earning. Maybe they earn a lot less; quite possibly, they earn more.”). That’s a wild estimate that hints at why at least some Web folks don’t really get the problems newspaper have with the Web.
Because let’s face it, the Journal would be over the moon if it could to get just a nickel a day ($1.50 a month) from each Google visitor.
Think about it. The WSJ has 10.4 million unique online visitors last month, according to Nielsen (The Journal claims it’s roughly twice that). Hitwise last night reported that more than 25 percent of its traffic comes from Google—Hitwise tells me that traffic is unique visits, not page views. It appears Hitwise added the two numbers (13.8 percent and 8.9 percent) from Google and Google News incorrectly, so let’s go with 23 percent.
That comes to 2.4 million visitors from Google last month. If the WSJ got $15 a head that’s $36 million or $442 million on an annualized basis from Google traffic alone. But that’s just less than one quarter of WSJ.com traffic. Extrapolate that across the whole and you come up with about $1.8 billion a year. If that were the case, all would be well in newspaper land and we could quit focusing on this business stuff and go back to focusing on the journalism. Good luck with that.
Truth is, the WSJ doesn’t get a tenth of that from each Google visitor. It may not get a hundredth of that. I’ve estimated that The New York Times news media division has taken in $123 million in online advertising so far this year and is on pace (link is an Excel document) for about $160 million for the year. That division includes The Boston Globe and other regional papers, which combined have accounted for about 36 percent of the division’s print advertising. If that ratio holds online—this is necessarily rough since the Times Company doesn’t break out those online numbers—you wind up with The New York Times itself getting $102 million in Internet ads this year.
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So I'm newspaper folk, not just web folk. That's where I came from. And it is a wild guess, and I said in my post as much. I said it could be radically lower. I know you quote that -- but I think it's worth stressing again that this was a starting point for a discussion -- which you've added to well, so thanks!
Maybe they're not even getting a nickle. But the bigger point I was making was that how much would it be worth it to Bing or another search engine (say Google) if they were (and this still hurts my head) deciding it was in their interest to pay the WSJ for each person they send. Because, I guess, if the WSJ can't make a nickle per person that visits, Google/Bing somehow have magical powers!
I think the reality is that while Murdoch might think his content is what makes Google earn so much money, for Google, it might really be a loss leader at best. I really don't think Google or Bing are going to pay that much (if anything) for the right to list headlines and summaries and send that traffic on to the WSJ. But that's a case of the newspaper exec folks (Murdoch) not getting it.
The really more important thing from out of this is what are the numbers Murdoch wants. What exactly does he think Google owes him? What's his price tag -- what's that based off of -- how's he proving whatever amount he think Google gains off of him.
We so much need to get past the sound bites. Some figures, any figures, are at least getting thinking past the starting line.
#1 Posted by Danny Sullivan, CJR on Tue 10 Nov 2009 at 02:24 PM
Also, it's worth remembering that for a long time, the WSJ was NOT in Google. At some point, they decided to open up. OK, that was before Murdoch. But did someone crunch numbers and decide all those free visitors were worthwhile. And where are Murdoch's numbers? If he's getting 1 million people per day from Google, how does he figure NOT getting them makes him more money? Those people can read ONE article via Google per visit. A tiny, tiny number of them are savvy enough to keep using Google to bypass his paywall -- and the WSJ has NEVER raised that as an issue. So he cuts Google off, how's he figuring that makes him money. What % of those 1 million has he calculated depend so much on WSJ content that they'll go directly to the WSJ. And wouldn't that % already be at the WSJ?
#2 Posted by Danny Sullivan, CJR on Tue 10 Nov 2009 at 02:28 PM
"The Journal has the cleverest and most successful newspaper Web site in the world—clever because it keeps getting subscription dollars every month from more than a million users, while increasing its traffic significantly by allowing Google searches and, thus, links to come in for one story for free."
And in the same interview Murdoch denied that the Wall Street Journal does this very thing ("...if you're not a paying subscriber to WSJ.com all you get is a paragraph and a subscription form...") which means he was either dissembling about it, or ignorant of his own newspaper's (clever) strategy. One would think that deserves a mention here, as long as we're praising Rupert's acumen.
#3 Posted by Jay Rosen, CJR on Tue 10 Nov 2009 at 02:34 PM
Ryan, all those CAPS by the way, aren't directed at you. And I don't mean them with a tone of hostility, either. It's more frustration with Murdoch for having launched his anti-Google, anti-"freeloaders" campaign without really putting many actual facts out there that can be debated.
#4 Posted by Danny Sullivan, CJR on Tue 10 Nov 2009 at 04:21 PM
This analysis is effective proof that search engines don't pay off purely as a distribution channel. But they're also a marketing channel. What's the monthly benefit to the WSJ's brand and brand-awareness of showing up in Google search results?
#5 Posted by Michael Andersen, CJR on Tue 10 Nov 2009 at 05:14 PM
Danny, I'm all with you on putting some cards on the table. It's frustrating to try to back out numbers on this debate when there's very little transparency. For competitive reasons or for we're-just-plain-embarrassed reasons I'm not too optimistic about getting much data.
But, and I'm not saying it's right, what he's going after isn't replacement money. I'm betting he's trying to shake some coins out of Sergey and Larry's pockets by threatening to leave. That's also why I think Murdoch is blustering about fair use.
Much as I don't think Google would much miss the WSJ alone in its search results, Eric Schmidt has bemoaned the "cesspool" of poor information out there, and he wouldn't want to see an exodus of professional content providers to a fat-pocketed Microsoft willing to lower its margins or even lose some money in order to weaken the Google search monopoly.
Jay,
It pains me to say nice things about Rupert Murdoch, but I thought when writing this that the "bumbling" thing and linking to the video was enough re his confusion/lie/misstatement re WSJ.com and Google. Maybe not in hindsight.
#6 Posted by Ryan Chittum, CJR on Tue 10 Nov 2009 at 06:00 PM
If it's a shakedown attempt by Murdoch, Google should hit back with a pre-preemptive de-listing of all of Murdoch's properties. "He pulls a knife, you pull a gun".
#7 Posted by Josh Jasper, CJR on Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 07:27 PM