The New York Times runs an op-ed headlined “Why Evangelicals Don’t Like Mormons,” which takes on an important issue but glosses over the critical role fundamentalism plays in the phenomenon.
David S. Reynolds is writing about the political woes of Mitt Romney in evangelical-heavy primaries in Iowa and South Carolina and trying to explain how evangelicals think in that way that drives flyover folks crazy. Evangelicals are leery of Latter Day Saints, he says, because of the “insecurities of the establishment denominations” faced with a powerful competitor.
Okay, this isn’t a usual Audit subject, but I can’t resist. I claim a bit of authority having been raised an evangelical in Tulsa (Nazarene church three times a week, no dancing, no drinking, etc.), and, yes, my best friend as a kid was Mormon, so I followed church teaching on LDS particularly closely. As fourteen-year-old nerds, we sat around nights sparring about theology when we probably should have been smoking weed or something. I’d begun rejecting fundamentalism by the time I was eleven or twelve, but it sure was fun to argue about that stuff.
I don’t doubt that, at least at the clerical level, competition, as Reynolds says, is not welcome. But it’s worth remembering that mainstream Christian churches have disliked the Mormon Church from the time it had just a few hundred followers. That’s how Brigham Young & Co. ended up in Utah.
And Reynolds gets it wrong when trying to figure how why evangelicals are supposedly more freaked by Mormons than other sects:
Christian Scientists, for instance, eschew doctors and medicine. Seventh-day Adventists have often set dates for the end of the world that have come and gone, while Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the doctrines of the Trinity and eternal punishment.
But neither those nor other American-bred religions arouse nearly the degree of anxiety that Mormonism does. Why?
For one thing, no Jehovah’s Witness has yet become a leading candidate for president (unless you count Eisenhower, who ran from his mother’s religion), so we don’t know what kind of anxiety that would create.
But, let’s break it down: Evangelicals are mostly Biblical fundamentalists. That’s the real issue here. They take a literalist view of the Bible and see Mormons (and Jehovah’s Witnesses, for that matter, though not so much Christian Scientists and Adventists) as heretics, who follow a false prophet and believe in a different holy book—a big no-no to people who believe Genesis through Revelation is the Word of God. So the resistance to a Mormon candidate isn’t about competition, at least at base. It’s about theology.
Some Mormon beliefs just diverge dramatically from core Christian doctrine in the eyes of evangelicals who see the idea that “man can become God-like” and that God once had a god above him, for instance, as akin to blasphemy (For their part, Mormon doctrine holds that the mainstream Christian churches were corrupted by a Great Apostasy*, shortly after Jesus’s death).
And so, most evangelicals see Mormonism as basically a different religion, a non-Christian one (and one that angers them by claiming Christianity). And evangelicals, or at least the ones I know, just aren’t much interested in voting for a non-Christian to be president, at least in a primary with other Christians. It’s that simple. Some evangelicals still believe that Catholics, you know, the ones who started the whole thing in the first place, aren’t really Christians. They’re not going to vote for a Muslim candidate for president, and certainly not an atheist (a Jew would be more complicated. Let’s just say there were three banners on stage at my church: the American flag, the Christian flag, and the Israeli flag). They just believe a Christian, preferably one just like them, should be president. My late East Texas grandfather, for one, voted Democrat every election from 1936 to 1992, except for 1960, when he pulled the lever for Nixon because Kennedy was Catholic.
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It's a good story. The dislike of mormonism at the level of the clergy is, of course, translated to congregants as a doctrinal issue, but as you readily admit, those whose livelihood depends on the size of the congregation will certainly seek to protect the flock, i.e. revenue. There is also a very sizable, and profitable print and multimedia industry devoted to anti-mormon topics.
But I also admit that at least at the congregant level it is a doctrinal issue. I actually empathize with evangelicals who might think that mormons are of the devil. With what they are taught about the church how could they not think we are of the devil. Heck, if I believed half of what evangelicals think I believe I suppose I would be of the devil. But I don't, and I am not.
I remember as a high school student being invited by an evangelical acquaintance of mine to an evening on hard rock music by a traveling pastor (I had to pay to attend by the way).
Anyway, I was intrigued by the topic so I attended. It was two hours of preaching against the evils of satanic music by bands like Slayer and Megadeth and a bunch of other bands I did not even know, but were pretty hard core with their lyrics and music.
Accompanying the music and sermon was a slide presentation running in the background. What was absolutely amazing to me about the "performance" were the intermittent slides with images of the LDS Salt Lake Temple, the LDS Church logo and pictures of mormon missionaries. These would be randomly inserted into the the sermon while being accompanied by the music of these death metal bands with lyrics about Satan worship.
I didn't really understand the connection he was trying to make. I was a high school student and was totally ignorant that there was an institutionalized program amongst some evangelical sects to demonize (literally) the LDS church. So the whole thing kind of ran off my back and I didn't really grasp what it was all about.
Today, thinking back on that experience it makes me shiver to think what evangelicals are really being taught in their "comparative religion" Sunday School classes about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its adherents.
And if they are being taught these things, why should we not expect them to fear us? I mean, if that was what I had been taught about Evangelicals I would be pretty fearful too.
And so you can understand why the LDS church continually goes to great pains to dispel myths and help others outside the church realize that we are just people too, trying to get by in the world with faith in Jesus Christ, that he died and rose again and that the grace of Christ is the only means whereby we may return back to God.
It is funny to me that protestant denominations that reject the LDS Church because of its additional scripture do so, yet in the same breath accept the creeds of the middle ages as somehow canonical. Is that not tantamount to extra-biblical? But I digress...
Anyway, good article. Well done and very thoughtful.
#1 Posted by sloagm, CJR on Fri 27 Jan 2012 at 10:03 PM
The writer would do well to consult a latter-day saint before writing on LDS "doctrine". The word is "Apostasy" (with two S's) and it's believed by LDS to have happened after all the apostles were killed or taken from the earth (around 100 AD I think) and before the Roman emperor forced the then-existing leaders to come to some consensus on the issues of God's characteristics and nature in the 4th century for his own political expediencies.
#2 Posted by jt8383829, CJR on Fri 27 Jan 2012 at 10:04 PM
Okay, I just want to address the "God had a god before him" thing. First of all, the LDS Church teaches that God is our Father, that Jesus Christ is his Son and that the third member of the Godhead is the Holy Ghost. That is doctrine.
We have had various church leaders discuss the nature of God, just as the scholars of the early middle ages discussed and came to conclusions about the nature of God. These discourses are not part of the standard works of the church but are considered appendages to what we consider to be canonical and necessary for salvation.
LDS church leaders have taught that we can become "like" God. One way that I would characterize this is in the teaching that Jesus gave in the sermon on the mount "be ye therefore perfect even as your Father who is in heaven is perfect". I do not believe that he would teach something that is impossible for us to achieve. In fact, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ makes us perfect for all those that accept it and follow his teachings.
While these ideas are informal interpretations of scripture they make much more sense to me than an ethereal interpretation of God as a non-corporeal substance a la Nicene Creed.
Indeed, I believe that God is my Father, that I was not just the work of his hands, but that I am his son and that we as humans stand apart from all other creations of the earth, and that in fact the earth was created expressly for us to inhabit, to learn, grow and experience. This both enobles me and debases me in that I know what my lineage is as a son of God but I also recognize my weakness and baseness before God who is all knowing, all powerful and all loving.
I believe that God wants me to obtain the joy that he has in the same sense that I as a father want my children to find as much joy and happiness as they can possibly have. I believe that joy comes through living the gospel of Jesus Christ and that those teachings will draw us closer to God our Father, teaching us to love one another as he loves us. I believe that families on earth are designed to mimic God's eternal family in heaven.
I don't know if God has a father, it has been taught informally as an extension of the logic of how we may progress after we die but never added to canon or scripture as essential doctrine for salvation. We don't discuss it in Sunday School lessons unless someone in class gets wacky and completely off topic.
However, does that idea go contrary to my understanding of the nature of God? Not necessarily. Is it necessary that I understand the doctrine of the lineage of God to return to God? I don't think so. Instead, I follow the scripture that we are to have no other Gods before God our Father, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. Because of that simple fact I really don't need to worry about any other gods that may or may not be in existence to live my life here on the earth. Instead I am content to learn the gospel of Jesus Christ, to have faith in him, to pray to God the Father in the name of Jesus and to follow Jesus' example of love and compassion toward others.
#3 Posted by sloagm, CJR on Fri 27 Jan 2012 at 10:53 PM
Wow, Slogan and jt8383829 -- you guys kick butt! I love how you've really explained the nuances of LDS doctrine. Great job As a member, it's wonderful to see the articulation in the way you've described the way we see ourselves within Christianity--even if some so-called Christians don't think we belong. Thank you again for your time, effort and the spirit of understanding that you are employing in your responses. I'm very proud to call myself a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Yep, I'm a Mormon...
#4 Posted by Mickey Mormon, CJR on Fri 27 Jan 2012 at 11:26 PM
Correction: The Seventh-day Adventist church has NEVER set a date for the end of the world. The followers of William Miller set a date of October 22 1844 as the time of Jesus' coming as a mistaken interpretation of a very accurately calculated time prophecy given by the angel in Daniel 8:14. 14 "And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred days; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.” Miller mistakenly assumed that the cleansing of the sanctuary referred to the cleansing of the earth by fire at the coming of Jesus. At the time, a huge number of Christians of all persuasions were convinced that he was right. Some of these dissapointed people restudied the prophecy, and also the book of Hebrews, and realised the error he had made and what the time period really was all about.
Some went on to form the Seventh-day Adventist church in 1963, nineteen years after that 1844 date. The Seventh-day Adventist Church has never set a date for the coming of Jesus and the end of the world. However they do teach that the coming of Jesus is imminent. Hence the name "Adventist" referring to the second advent of Christ. I've been checking their teachings out for years and believe that, if we are to believe the Bible, they are dead right.
#5 Posted by Barry, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 01:24 AM
Ooops! Sorry that date for the formation of the Seventh-day Adventist church was 1863, not 1963. Barry
#6 Posted by Barry, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 01:31 AM
I was born raised 3rd generation Jehovah's Witness 1957.
As to what they believe the CORE doctrine of the Watchtower organization (JW) is that Jesus had his return,aka second coming October 1914 'invisibly' and they were the only ones who discerned it.They clearly are false prophets (Galatian 1:8).
Best regards,Danny Haszard
#7 Posted by Danny Haszard, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 01:57 AM
Mormons’ theology is based on New Testament Christianity, not Fourth Century Creeds. For example, the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) views on Baptism, Lay Ministry, the Trinity, Theosis, Grace vs. Works, the Divinity of Jesus Christ comport more closely with Early Christianity than any other denomination. And Mormons’ teenagers have been judged to “top the charts” in Christian Characteristics by a UNC-Chapel Hill study. Read about it here:
http://MormonsAreChristian.blogspot.com
According to a 2012 Pew Forum poll of members of the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) 98 percent said they believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and 97 percent say their church is a Christian religion. Mormons have a better understanding of Christianity than any other denomination, according to a 2010 Pew Forum poll:
http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx
11 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence (including several presidents) were non-Trinitarian Christians. Those who now insist on their narrow Trinitarian and salvation-only- by-grace definition of Christianity for candidates for public office are doing our Republic an injustice.
#8 Posted by Mormons Are Christian, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 04:49 AM
Dear Christian I am Pastor in Haryana North India. Let's know each other to do our Lord's work together. Immanuel
#9 Posted by Immanuel, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 07:59 AM
Immanuel greets from Haryana - North India
#10 Posted by Immanuel, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 08:05 AM
I was raised as a third generation Jehovah's Witness. The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures uses the name Jehovah in place of the title Lord over 7,000 times. They teach today, that they follow the early Christian congregation model and that their doctrines and decision making is actively guided by God's Holy Spirit. My wake-up call came when I discovered through research that the name Jehovah is German mistranslation of the Tetragrammaton (Hebrew name of God). This fact was originally acknowledged in the Watchtower writings with the reasoning that having a name for God was more important than just a Title even if that name was culturally modified. My question was if they were in fact being guided by the active will of the most powerful being in existence, wouldn't he want his followers to at least get his name right? If we are made in his image, and somebody misspells or incorrectly says our name, what do we do? We correct them, so wouldn't He do the same if he was actively guiding the Governing Body? The next blow for me came when I found out that all doctrinal revisions are based on a two thirds vote of the Governing Body, this is why over the years doctrines and dates have waffled and the use the scriptural analogy of "as the day star rises the light (of understanding) becomes clearer." Unfortunately, this is not true.
To their credit however, Jehovah's Witnesses do care closely for one another and in times of disaster, they reach out freely helping the community rebuild. You will never see them run for political office, but by the same token, no religion has been responsible for more constitutional amendments and high court decisions which actively protect all of our personal rights.
I separated from this religion over a decade ago due to scriptural inconsistencies and personal issues, however there are some positives I can still see in their community. I believe the same can be said for every facet of organized religion.
Yet, before accepting any teaching, we are all first born into this life as human beings. We are then taught to hate others for their differing beliefs, for being different in appearance, when in fact this is simply an articial construct: there is no difference in any human born in any corner of this planet. We all desire to eat good food, have a nice place rest and someone to be intimate with. Everything beyond those three basics are stories we tell ourselves to explain the unexplainable, Think about this: all human life exists in a vertical space of about three miles thick over the surface of the earth-three miles. How far is it to your grocery store? When you put human existence into this context, the variety of religions, mythologies and belief systems become downright comical in the sheer vastness of the human ego. Think about that with your Cheerios.
Hope you all have a very thought-full day.
#11 Posted by Jonathan Sudler, CJR on Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 11:31 AM
On behalf of the small community of Jews who worship Monty Python and Emo Phillips (author of the best religious joke ever), I thank you all.
#12 Posted by Weldon Berger, CJR on Sun 29 Jan 2012 at 10:10 PM
Danny Haszard nobody cares man. how many times are you going to retell the same tired story. You are so full of hate man you are being used.
#13 Posted by Mark, CJR on Wed 1 Feb 2012 at 07:38 AM
I'm a native East Texan raised in the Southern Baptist church who became a newspaper reporter and now am a communications strategist for environmental and other liberal organizations. The inability to properly distinguish between mainstream Christianity, evangelicalism, fundamentalism and splinter cults like Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses causes a great deal of misunderstanding not only in journalism but in the "progressive" movement. Thanks for setting it straight here.
#14 Posted by Bill Walker, CJR on Thu 2 Feb 2012 at 07:34 PM
The media has totally dropped the ball on this... it is not just an evangelical position. Catholics, Presbyterians and Methodists have all rejected the baptism of Mormons, which is a denial of their being Christian. Any Mormon joining their congregations would have to be re-baptized. Churches that affirm one another's doctrines on a basic level do not require re-baptism. The overwhelming majority of Christian faiths do not regard Mormons as Christians. The belief systems between Mormons and other Christians may use the same 'personalities', such as God the Father and Jesus and Satan, but the essence, relationships and dynamics of those personalities are so different, they cannot be reconciled. Even on the most basic level Mormonism is polytheistic with more than one being as 'God', while Christianity is Monotheistic with three expressions of divinity existing as one being.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon48.html
#15 Posted by Christopher Sibley, CJR on Tue 7 Feb 2012 at 03:51 AM
I didn't really care about Romeny's religion until I got to find out more about it. This video shows really what Mormons believe in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udew9axmdM I don't want my president to believe in something like that while at the same time be against Same Sex Marriages because it is wrong. Guess what Romney, actually your religion is WRONG!.
#16 Posted by Alicia, CJR on Sat 27 Oct 2012 at 04:07 PM